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	<title>Comments on: scott leslie on how sharing works</title>
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	<description>apparently much happier in person</description>
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		<title>By: Open Monologue &#187; Blog Archive &#187; There&#8217;s something in the share</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/11/08/scott-leslie-on-how-sharing-works/#comment-194000</link>
		<dc:creator>Open Monologue &#187; Blog Archive &#187; There&#8217;s something in the share</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 07:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] poorly - read Scott&#8217;s own words to get the full impact of what he is saying). Alan Levine and D&#8217;Arcy Norman picked up on the idea by sharing their own experiences of sharing content within institutions and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] poorly &#8211; read Scott&#8217;s own words to get the full impact of what he is saying). Alan Levine and D&#8217;Arcy Norman picked up on the idea by sharing their own experiences of sharing content within institutions and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Channels Clay, Power to the People! at iterating toward openness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Channels Clay, Power to the People! at iterating toward openness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] me somewhat of Clay Shirky&#8217;s A group is its own worst enemy. D&#8217;Arcy says, &#8220;Sharing works because you do it. That’s all there is to it.&#8221; After reading Scott, Tony is left asking himself, &#8220;I wonder if we have any more [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] me somewhat of Clay Shirky&#8217;s A group is its own worst enemy. D&#8217;Arcy says, &#8220;Sharing works because you do it. That’s all there is to it.&#8221; After reading Scott, Tony is left asking himself, &#8220;I wonder if we have any more [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dnorman</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/11/08/scott-leslie-on-how-sharing-works/#comment-193918</link>
		<dc:creator>dnorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 16:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it takes 3 months because the seat is needed in the next semester by someone else in a different, probably unrelated course. the course structure is much more about resource management than teaching and learning. I agree - some really amazing opportunities open up for personalized learning (and even personalized education and Education) once we stop forcing ourselves to restrict access based on availability of bricks, mortar, and desks...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it takes 3 months because the seat is needed in the next semester by someone else in a different, probably unrelated course. the course structure is much more about resource management than teaching and learning. I agree &#8211; some really amazing opportunities open up for personalized learning (and even personalized education and Education) once we stop forcing ourselves to restrict access based on availability of bricks, mortar, and desks&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Leslie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 16:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks D&#039;Arcy, I kinda thought this one might resonate with you too. We have been through some of the same battles. 

It&#039;s hard to explain to people that this is not a call to abadon all collective effort; there is a place for it, but it can be done in a way that grows instead of gets erected. But the corollary of this, which is really hard for people to take, is that some things take exactly as long as they take. Our institutions will look quite different when they finally take this on - why should it take everyone exactly 3 months to finish a 3 credit course, and if by the end they haven&#039;t mastered it sufficiently that is considered a &quot;failure.&quot; Some will take 1 month on that material, some will take 6. We have the opportunity to change our systems in a positive way that reflects that, that factors that into its pricing models, and that benefits students and instructors. But it would mean giving up some control. Ah, control. How hard it is to accept we can&#039;t force things to grow/learn. But then if we pictured ourselves standing and yelling at a plant &quot;grow, dammit, grow&quot; we&#039;d realize how silly that desire for control really is. Boy, I do go on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks D&#8217;Arcy, I kinda thought this one might resonate with you too. We have been through some of the same battles. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to explain to people that this is not a call to abadon all collective effort; there is a place for it, but it can be done in a way that grows instead of gets erected. But the corollary of this, which is really hard for people to take, is that some things take exactly as long as they take. Our institutions will look quite different when they finally take this on &#8211; why should it take everyone exactly 3 months to finish a 3 credit course, and if by the end they haven&#8217;t mastered it sufficiently that is considered a &#8220;failure.&#8221; Some will take 1 month on that material, some will take 6. We have the opportunity to change our systems in a positive way that reflects that, that factors that into its pricing models, and that benefits students and instructors. But it would mean giving up some control. Ah, control. How hard it is to accept we can&#8217;t force things to grow/learn. But then if we pictured ourselves standing and yelling at a plant &#8220;grow, dammit, grow&#8221; we&#8217;d realize how silly that desire for control really is. Boy, I do go on!</p>
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