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	<title>Comments on: AP license vs. fair use?</title>
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	<description>just a lowly edtech geek, mumble mumble university of calgary</description>
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		<title>By: Paul K Egell-Johnsen</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/06/17/ap-license-vs-fair-use/#comment-185663</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul K Egell-Johnsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem about AP is that they are situated in USA. In the US you are not entitled to get your lawyer fees covered &lt;i&gt;even if you win&lt;/i&gt;. Therefore a frivolious lawsuit, disregarding the fair use part of the law, is enough to shut people up. A lawyer in the US doesn&#039;t com cheap, I hear.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080407-patry-copyright-owners-wants-rights-expanded-to-were-rabbit-size.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem about AP is that they are situated in USA. In the US you are not entitled to get your lawyer fees covered <i>even if you win</i>. Therefore a frivolious lawsuit, disregarding the fair use part of the law, is enough to shut people up. A lawyer in the US doesn&#8217;t com cheap, I hear.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Fitzgerald</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/06/17/ap-license-vs-fair-use/#comment-183595</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Fitzgerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: &quot;can the AP demand a fee for a quote using as little as 5 words?&quot;

Sure, they can demand anything they want. Does the law say that they can they force you to pay them? Different question entirely.

Short answer: they have a lot of money for a lot of lawyers, and some of their recent actions show that they are more than willing to flex some legal muscle on your copyright-violating ass!

It get&#039;s even cloudier in your case, because you are Canadian, and your blog is in Canada, and, while (obviously) IANAL, legal interpretations differ between Canada and Les Etats Unis.

@Brian -- I&#039;ll gladly rat him out with you -- can we split the million?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: &#8220;can the AP demand a fee for a quote using as little as 5 words?&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure, they can demand anything they want. Does the law say that they can they force you to pay them? Different question entirely.</p>
<p>Short answer: they have a lot of money for a lot of lawyers, and some of their recent actions show that they are more than willing to flex some legal muscle on your copyright-violating ass!</p>
<p>It get&#8217;s even cloudier in your case, because you are Canadian, and your blog is in Canada, and, while (obviously) IANAL, legal interpretations differ between Canada and Les Etats Unis.</p>
<p>@Brian &#8212; I&#8217;ll gladly rat him out with you &#8212; can we split the million?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Leslie</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/06/17/ap-license-vs-fair-use/#comment-183594</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...or, I could rat D&#039;Arcy out, give him a portion of the million bucks to pay his fines. ThenI could publish some AP stuff, he could rat me out, share the bounty to pay the fines, reap the profits....the fun would never end! Think of all the money we could make simply by re-posting canned, stale-dated articles from AP, almost like my local newspaper!

Jeez, this totally beats the multi-level marketing scam I was trying to get started...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;or, I could rat D&#8217;Arcy out, give him a portion of the million bucks to pay his fines. ThenI could publish some AP stuff, he could rat me out, share the bounty to pay the fines, reap the profits&#8230;.the fun would never end! Think of all the money we could make simply by re-posting canned, stale-dated articles from AP, almost like my local newspaper!</p>
<p>Jeez, this totally beats the multi-level marketing scam I was trying to get started&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/06/17/ap-license-vs-fair-use/#comment-183593</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you qualify for educational pricing, that&#039;s $12.50 you owe AP. If you don&#039;t, make that $17.00.

The fact that you host your site yourself might hinder your ability to qualify for those low, low educational prices. After all, is this blog &quot;solely&quot; for educational use? Then again, it&#039;s probably best that you are hosting your site yourself, As the AP notes, &quot;Piracy hurts creators, devalues their works, and puts you and *your employer* at risk.&quot;

I also see I &#039;may&#039; be eligible for &#039;up to&#039; a cool million bucks in reward if I rat you out. Might &#039;digital rights bounty hunters&#039; be the hot new employment trend in the coming decade?

http://info.icopyright.com/honorcopyright.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you qualify for educational pricing, that&#8217;s $12.50 you owe AP. If you don&#8217;t, make that $17.00.</p>
<p>The fact that you host your site yourself might hinder your ability to qualify for those low, low educational prices. After all, is this blog &#8220;solely&#8221; for educational use? Then again, it&#8217;s probably best that you are hosting your site yourself, As the AP notes, &#8220;Piracy hurts creators, devalues their works, and puts you and *your employer* at risk.&#8221;</p>
<p>I also see I &#8216;may&#8217; be eligible for &#8216;up to&#8217; a cool million bucks in reward if I rat you out. Might &#8216;digital rights bounty hunters&#8217; be the hot new employment trend in the coming decade?</p>
<p><a href="http://info.icopyright.com/honorcopyright.asp" rel="nofollow">http://info.icopyright.com/honorcopyright.asp</a></p>
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