Comments on: on leadership in the edublogosphere http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/05/27/on-leadership-in-the-edublogosphere/ apparently much happier in person Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:39:21 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Lanny Arvan http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/05/27/on-leadership-in-the-edublogosphere/#comment-182529 Lanny Arvan Fri, 30 May 2008 22:11:54 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/?p=1951#comment-182529 Hmmm. I'm not sure I'd call an artist or a novelist a leader. Each through their creations might very well provoke me in thought. But neither would be likely to induce me to act. I'd put the good edu bloggers in the category of provoking thought. So I wonder if leader is the right word. On the other hand, I concur that among bloggers are those with high administrative position or enhanced visibility by the nature of their work, not their blogging, and among those some write in quite a stiff manner. Why read their blogs at all? If a tree falls in the forest... Hmmm. I’m not sure I’d call an artist or a novelist a leader. Each through their creations might very well provoke me in thought. But neither would be likely to induce me to act. I’d put the good edu bloggers in the category of provoking thought. So I wonder if leader is the right word.

On the other hand, I concur that among bloggers are those with high administrative position or enhanced visibility by the nature of their work, not their blogging, and among those some write in quite a stiff manner. Why read their blogs at all? If a tree falls in the forest…

]]> By: Rainer http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/05/27/on-leadership-in-the-edublogosphere/#comment-182404 Rainer Thu, 29 May 2008 06:40:47 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/?p=1951#comment-182404 "I met him at the candy store He turned around and smiled at me You get the picture? That's when I fell for the leader of the pack" (by the Carpenters) That leader thing is high school girly stuff. Think you will become a leader by smart posts :-) “I met him at the candy store
He turned around and smiled at me
You get the picture?
That’s when I fell for the leader of the pack”
(by the Carpenters)

That leader thing is high school girly stuff.
Think you will become a leader by smart posts :-)

]]> By: dnorman http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/05/27/on-leadership-in-the-edublogosphere/#comment-182354 dnorman Wed, 28 May 2008 20:33:25 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/?p=1951#comment-182354 @jim @scott obviously I was subscribed to too many irrelevant feeds. I'm going to prune my subscriptions further, and trust in the power of the Network to filter stuff :-) Not sure if I'm just turning into an old crank, but I find I'm increasingly bored with the "edublogosphere" - it needs a hardcore edupunk reboot. Which, oddly, is the vibe it had back in the day as well... @jim @scott obviously I was subscribed to too many irrelevant feeds. I’m going to prune my subscriptions further, and trust in the power of the Network to filter stuff :-) Not sure if I’m just turning into an old crank, but I find I’m increasingly bored with the “edublogosphere” – it needs a hardcore edupunk reboot. Which, oddly, is the vibe it had back in the day as well…

]]> By: Scott Leslie http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/05/27/on-leadership-in-the-edublogosphere/#comment-182350 Scott Leslie Wed, 28 May 2008 16:46:45 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/?p=1951#comment-182350 Wish I had a clue what you were referring too. Oh well, I guess we play in different parts of the 'edublogosphere' ;-) "Look out kid Youre gonna get hit But losers, cheaters Six-time users Hang around the theaters Girl by the whirlpool Lookin for a new fool Dont follow leaders Watch the parkin meters" Wish I had a clue what you were referring too. Oh well, I guess we play in different parts of the ‘edublogosphere’ ;-)

“Look out kid
Youre gonna get hit
But losers, cheaters
Six-time users
Hang around the theaters
Girl by the whirlpool
Lookin for a new fool
Dont follow leaders
Watch the parkin meters”

]]> By: JIm http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/05/27/on-leadership-in-the-edublogosphere/#comment-182349 JIm Wed, 28 May 2008 16:38:36 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/?p=1951#comment-182349 D'Arcy, I agree with your sentiment here entirely, and it is one of my biggest questions, how do we understand the question of leadership. I think is a complicated one, but I often seem to be wary of those who proclaim themselves as such. But I have to say, like several otheres, I am dying for a context :) That said, Rob Wall's notion of anarcho-syndicalism is an interesting one, and has a some traction in this space. We might be better off framing our own sense of involvement, leadership, and desire as a loosely joined community of thinkers, rather than a hierarchical structure of leadership. At the same time, I am more and more convinced that a sense of humor and the ability to pursue the creative outlets one wants makes all the difference in relationship to the question of leadership and power. If you have that space, the ideas of leaders and the notions they might impose become a space for discourse, problematizing, and possibly subversion. But that space should be a necessity not a luxury, and I am afraid it is more of the former than the latter. D’Arcy,

I agree with your sentiment here entirely, and it is one of my biggest questions, how do we understand the question of leadership. I think is a complicated one, but I often seem to be wary of those who proclaim themselves as such. But I have to say, like several otheres, I am dying for a context :)

That said, Rob Wall’s notion of anarcho-syndicalism is an interesting one, and has a some traction in this space. We might be better off framing our own sense of involvement, leadership, and desire as a loosely joined community of thinkers, rather than a hierarchical structure of leadership. At the same time, I am more and more convinced that a sense of humor and the ability to pursue the creative outlets one wants makes all the difference in relationship to the question of leadership and power. If you have that space, the ideas of leaders and the notions they might impose become a space for discourse, problematizing, and possibly subversion. But that space should be a necessity not a luxury, and I am afraid it is more of the former than the latter.

]]> By: Scott O'Raw http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/05/27/on-leadership-in-the-edublogosphere/#comment-182345 Scott O'Raw Wed, 28 May 2008 10:06:55 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/?p=1951#comment-182345 As much as I whole-heartedly agree with your sentiments D'Arcy, all you've left me with is an unhealthy desire to know where all the 'hand-wringing' is going on ;-) As much as I whole-heartedly agree with your sentiments D’Arcy, all you’ve left me with is an unhealthy desire to know where all the ‘hand-wringing’ is going on ;-)

]]> By: Alan Levine http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/05/27/on-leadership-in-the-edublogosphere/#comment-182343 Alan Levine Wed, 28 May 2008 04:29:50 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/?p=1951#comment-182343 Shucks, I have been napping and missed all the hand wringing. Oh well. Shucks, I have been napping and missed all the hand wringing.

Oh well.

]]> By: dnorman http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/05/27/on-leadership-in-the-edublogosphere/#comment-182340 dnorman Wed, 28 May 2008 02:13:47 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/?p=1951#comment-182340 @james yeah. that came out a bit wrong - what I was trying to get at is that there is no set of "official" leaders - my leaders are different than yours, and they are different for every individual. There is no defined hierarchy that everyone agrees define "the leaders" that must be followed... @james yeah. that came out a bit wrong – what I was trying to get at is that there is no set of “official” leaders – my leaders are different than yours, and they are different for every individual. There is no defined hierarchy that everyone agrees define “the leaders” that must be followed…

]]> By: James Farmer http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/05/27/on-leadership-in-the-edublogosphere/#comment-182332 James Farmer Tue, 27 May 2008 23:47:45 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/?p=1951#comment-182332 Heh, couldn't agree with you more regarding figuring out whether you happen to be a leader or not (although wish the rant had gone one for a while) - I think it's just down to the stats in the end, been blogging for 5 years, still no readers, definitely not a leader :D However, I couldn't agree with you less regarding there being 'no leaders' - there are definitely 'leaders' given even a loose definition of the term and there always will be because that's how we 'umans do shit. And it doesn't change just cos we happen to be online more than most! Heh, couldn’t agree with you more regarding figuring out whether you happen to be a leader or not (although wish the rant had gone one for a while) – I think it’s just down to the stats in the end, been blogging for 5 years, still no readers, definitely not a leader :D

However, I couldn’t agree with you less regarding there being ‘no leaders’ – there are definitely ‘leaders’ given even a loose definition of the term and there always will be because that’s how we ‘umans do shit. And it doesn’t change just cos we happen to be online more than most!

]]> By: dnorman http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/05/27/on-leadership-in-the-edublogosphere/#comment-182326 dnorman Tue, 27 May 2008 19:57:54 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/?p=1951#comment-182326 @robwall splitter! @robwall splitter!

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