Comments on: Eduglu and the aggregate social tag cloud http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/02/13/eduglu-and-the-aggregate-social-tag-cloud/ ragingly ambivalent. or something. whatever. Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:52:05 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: UBC Blogs » Making WordPress work for UBC http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/02/13/eduglu-and-the-aggregate-social-tag-cloud/#comment-179690 UBC Blogs » Making WordPress work for UBC Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:57:04 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/02/13/eduglu-and-the-aggregate-social-tag-cloud/#comment-179690 [...] for UBC Blogs matters to others outside of UBC. From reading posts on Brian Lamb Jim Groom and D’Arcy Norman’s blogs I knew that a lot of people were struggling with the implementation of a free, easy to use [...] [...] for UBC Blogs matters to others outside of UBC. From reading posts on Brian Lamb Jim Groom and D’Arcy Norman’s blogs I knew that a lot of people were struggling with the implementation of a free, easy to use [...]

]]> By: UBC Blogs » Andre Malan’s Site » Making WordPress work for UBC http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/02/13/eduglu-and-the-aggregate-social-tag-cloud/#comment-179689 UBC Blogs » Andre Malan’s Site » Making WordPress work for UBC Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:48:09 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/02/13/eduglu-and-the-aggregate-social-tag-cloud/#comment-179689 [...] for UBC Blogs matters to others outside of UBC. From reading posts on Brian Lamb Jim Groom and D’Arcy Norman’s blogs I knew that a lot of people were struggling with the implementation of a free, easy to use [...] [...] for UBC Blogs matters to others outside of UBC. From reading posts on Brian Lamb Jim Groom and D’Arcy Norman’s blogs I knew that a lot of people were struggling with the implementation of a free, easy to use [...]

]]> By: Gluing it all together « Learner Advocacy and Personalized Learning http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/02/13/eduglu-and-the-aggregate-social-tag-cloud/#comment-179636 Gluing it all together « Learner Advocacy and Personalized Learning Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:26:27 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/02/13/eduglu-and-the-aggregate-social-tag-cloud/#comment-179636 [...] Norman d’Arcy suggested that Drupal could provide such “Eduglu” and that is a solution dear to my heart. But another Drupaler, Bill Fitzgerald at Funny Monkey, took a more general approach and outlined an Open Learning system that seems to offer enough flexibility alongside the power. [...] [...] Norman d’Arcy suggested that Drupal could provide such “Eduglu” and that is a solution dear to my heart. But another Drupaler, Bill Fitzgerald at Funny Monkey, took a more general approach and outlined an Open Learning system that seems to offer enough flexibility alongside the power. [...]

]]> By: » Proud Spammer of Open University Courses WPMu Ed http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/02/13/eduglu-and-the-aggregate-social-tag-cloud/#comment-179610 » Proud Spammer of Open University Courses WPMu Ed Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:29:42 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/02/13/eduglu-and-the-aggregate-social-tag-cloud/#comment-179610 [...] a mythical eduglu as of late. Brian posted about it here and got some great feedback, soon after D’Arcy Norman and Bill Fitzgerald ramped up their work with Drupal. Then there was David’ Wileys [...] [...] a mythical eduglu as of late. Brian posted about it here and got some great feedback, soon after D’Arcy Norman and Bill Fitzgerald ramped up their work with Drupal. Then there was David’ Wileys [...]

]]> By: Matt http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/02/13/eduglu-and-the-aggregate-social-tag-cloud/#comment-178651 Matt Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:02:00 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/02/13/eduglu-and-the-aggregate-social-tag-cloud/#comment-178651 Ever thought about adding in mail from listservs as nodes? That might create a lot of noise, but it might also round out an fascinating knowledge base. http://drupal.org/project/mailhandler You could probably use Yahoo's autoclassification engine to create tags for the mail-based content via cron too. Ahh, scope creep ... gotta love it ;) Ever thought about adding in mail from listservs as nodes? That might create a lot of noise, but it might also round out an fascinating knowledge base.

http://drupal.org/project/mailhandler

You could probably use Yahoo’s autoclassification engine to create tags for the mail-based content via cron too.

Ahh, scope creep … gotta love it ;)

]]> By: Scott Mc http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/02/13/eduglu-and-the-aggregate-social-tag-cloud/#comment-178584 Scott Mc Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:36:49 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/02/13/eduglu-and-the-aggregate-social-tag-cloud/#comment-178584 Hey D'arcy, Good post I think I implemented the same thing(tagedelic??) on http://hikealberta.com/hike/tags using Drupal and it works great. Hoping that the same thing can be done in a Wordpress MU environment which will be a required feature on a project I am working on at UBC. -scott Hey D’arcy,

Good post I think I implemented the same thing(tagedelic??) on http://hikealberta.com/hike/tags using Drupal and it works great.

Hoping that the same thing can be done in a Wordpress MU environment which will be a required feature on a project I am working on at UBC.

-scott

]]> By: Jim http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/02/13/eduglu-and-the-aggregate-social-tag-cloud/#comment-178387 Jim Thu, 14 Feb 2008 02:41:31 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/02/13/eduglu-and-the-aggregate-social-tag-cloud/#comment-178387 Leave it the Calgary Kid to make it happen, bravo! Leave it the Calgary Kid to make it happen, bravo!

]]> By: Alan Levine http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/02/13/eduglu-and-the-aggregate-social-tag-cloud/#comment-178287 Alan Levine Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:39:19 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/02/13/eduglu-and-the-aggregate-social-tag-cloud/#comment-178287 Mythical EduGliu, yum! And what is all that stuff tagged "arcy"? great stuff! Mythical EduGliu, yum!

And what is all that stuff tagged “arcy”?

great stuff!

]]> By: dnorman http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/02/13/eduglu-and-the-aggregate-social-tag-cloud/#comment-178270 dnorman Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:51:18 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/02/13/eduglu-and-the-aggregate-social-tag-cloud/#comment-178270 @scott: not sure, but that may be the first time I wrote it quite like that... It's how I've been framing it (in my head at least) for some time, but I don't think I've described it quite so succinctly before... @bill: yeah, it's del.icio.us and some rogue feeds that seem to be gumming up the works, so I resorted to the Yahoo! autotagging thing, which is currently clobbering all incoming tags anyway. I'll try to make some sense of it tonight... @scott: not sure, but that may be the first time I wrote it quite like that… It’s how I’ve been framing it (in my head at least) for some time, but I don’t think I’ve described it quite so succinctly before…

@bill: yeah, it’s del.icio.us and some rogue feeds that seem to be gumming up the works, so I resorted to the Yahoo! autotagging thing, which is currently clobbering all incoming tags anyway. I’ll try to make some sense of it tonight…

]]> By: Bill Fitzgerald http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/02/13/eduglu-and-the-aggregate-social-tag-cloud/#comment-178257 Bill Fitzgerald Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:15:13 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/2008/02/13/eduglu-and-the-aggregate-social-tag-cloud/#comment-178257 Hello, D'Arcy, Yeah, there's definitely something special about the tag cloud -- all that information, just a click away -- Just for kicks, I set the tagadelic page here: http://feeds.educon20.org/tagadelic to show 3000 tags -- partly an experiment to see how the site would hold up under resource-expensive pageloads, but also because I like how it looked -- it's fun to navigate using FF's Find in this page -- RE: "There are issues, to be sure, mostly with respect to honouring the original tags in the aggregated items" delicious seems to be the main culprit here -- are you seeing this from any other site? I'm wondering how difficult it would be to set up special handling for delicious feeds. Given that delicious uses spaces, and not commas, to separate tags, any feed from delicious would need to be processed differently. I have also seen some issues with WP sites sending poorly formed xml, and with tags getting munged as a result. FWIW, the feeds.educon.org site is aggregating a few hundred feeds, and has over 10,000 nodes in just under a week. I set it up on a pretty anemic server to see how it would fare, and I've had to adjust some admin settings to smooth out cron runs, but for the most part it has just worked, without the need to make any adjustments to the hosting environment. Cheers, Bill Hello, D’Arcy,

Yeah, there’s definitely something special about the tag cloud — all that information, just a click away — Just for kicks, I set the tagadelic page here: http://feeds.educon20.org/tagadelic to show 3000 tags — partly an experiment to see how the site would hold up under resource-expensive pageloads, but also because I like how it looked — it’s fun to navigate using FF’s Find in this page —

RE: “There are issues, to be sure, mostly with respect to honouring the original tags in the aggregated items” delicious seems to be the main culprit here — are you seeing this from any other site? I’m wondering how difficult it would be to set up special handling for delicious feeds. Given that delicious uses spaces, and not commas, to separate tags, any feed from delicious would need to be processed differently.

I have also seen some issues with WP sites sending poorly formed xml, and with tags getting munged as a result.

FWIW, the feeds.educon.org site is aggregating a few hundred feeds, and has over 10,000 nodes in just under a week. I set it up on a pretty anemic server to see how it would fare, and I’ve had to adjust some admin settings to smooth out cron runs, but for the most part it has just worked, without the need to make any adjustments to the hosting environment.

Cheers,

Bill

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