Comments on: on creative commons licensing http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/12/on-creative-commons-licensing/ apparently much happier in person Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:39:21 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: cc for Your Webpage | Segerstrom High Web Class http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/12/on-creative-commons-licensing/#comment-181810 cc for Your Webpage | Segerstrom High Web Class Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:37:52 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/12/on-creative-commons-licensing/#comment-181810 [...] on April 30, 2008 Filed under Projects Go here to see an argument for a cc-by license for your website. Decide which license that you want for [...] [...] on April 30, 2008 Filed under Projects Go here to see an argument for a cc-by license for your website. Decide which license that you want for [...]

]]> By: Educational Technology and Life » Blog Archive » links for 2007-12-17 http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/12/on-creative-commons-licensing/#comment-153306 Educational Technology and Life » Blog Archive » links for 2007-12-17 Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:24:24 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/12/on-creative-commons-licensing/#comment-153306 [...] on creative commons licensing - D’Arcy Norman dot net D’Arcy Normal shares his perspective on CC licensing, and gives me reason to consider dropping the ShareAlike condition on my work and requiring attribution only, but I still like the Pay It Forward philosophy. (tags: copyright) [...] [...] on creative commons licensing – D’Arcy Norman dot net D’Arcy Normal shares his perspective on CC licensing, and gives me reason to consider dropping the ShareAlike condition on my work and requiring attribution only, but I still like the Pay It Forward philosophy. (tags: copyright) [...]

]]> By: leighblackall http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/12/on-creative-commons-licensing/#comment-152321 leighblackall Sat, 15 Dec 2007 07:43:30 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/12/on-creative-commons-licensing/#comment-152321 Right on D'Arcy! Darren refers to: http://flickr.com/photos/leighblackall/sets/72157600223371021/ Now I have to have another go at explaining what I mean.. not here though.. If you find yourself reading my article D'Arcy, I'd really appreciate some cues as to how I might make it clearer.. Right on D’Arcy! Darren refers to: http://flickr.com/photos/leighblackall/sets/72157600223371021/
Now I have to have another go at explaining what I mean.. not here though.. If you find yourself reading my article D’Arcy, I’d really appreciate some cues as to how I might make it clearer..

]]> By: Creative Commons « The Mendicant Bug http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/12/on-creative-commons-licensing/#comment-152033 Creative Commons « The Mendicant Bug Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:20:50 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/12/on-creative-commons-licensing/#comment-152033 [...] December 2007 in copyright, creative commons, licensing, spam, spam blogs D’Arcy Norman has a great post on the Creative Commons license and why to choose only CC:By rather than some of the stricter [...] [...] December 2007 in copyright, creative commons, licensing, spam, spam blogs D’Arcy Norman has a great post on the Creative Commons license and why to choose only CC:By rather than some of the stricter [...]

]]> By: Dean Shareski http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/12/on-creative-commons-licensing/#comment-152030 Dean Shareski Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:06:43 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/12/on-creative-commons-licensing/#comment-152030 "All I Really Need to Know I Learned in Kindergarten"....Lesson #1 Share everything. Thanks for sharing as always and allowing me to "steal" much of your work including your rotating banner concept and wordpress theme choice. “All I Really Need to Know I Learned in Kindergarten”….Lesson #1 Share everything. Thanks for sharing as always and allowing me to “steal” much of your work including your rotating banner concept and wordpress theme choice.

]]> By: Martin http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/12/on-creative-commons-licensing/#comment-151349 Martin Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:11:35 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/12/on-creative-commons-licensing/#comment-151349 Well explained and argued - I think I'll have to revisit the NC and Share-alike options I went for on my blog. But as you say, I don't think it has much relevance on a blog. You are spot on about photographs - I'm not a photographer but like many people Flickr is my new Powerpoint crutch. I only search for images with a CC license, I'm just not going to contact someone and ask if I can use their photo, so by not limiting use they are immediately excluding themselves from exposure. This is Clay Shirky's argument - given fame vs fortune, fame always wins for the individual, because the likely monetary returns are small. But, as you argue, even if it is your business, you're better of giving it away and then charging for specific services than restricting access and charging for use. This is gapingvoid's approach and you'd have to say he has a lot more exposure because his stuff is free to use. And he seems to be doing okay financially from it because this makes him attractive as a consultant to say, Microsoft. Well explained and argued – I think I’ll have to revisit the NC and Share-alike options I went for on my blog. But as you say, I don’t think it has much relevance on a blog. You are spot on about photographs – I’m not a photographer but like many people Flickr is my new Powerpoint crutch. I only search for images with a CC license, I’m just not going to contact someone and ask if I can use their photo, so by not limiting use they are immediately excluding themselves from exposure. This is Clay Shirky’s argument – given fame vs fortune, fame always wins for the individual, because the likely monetary returns are small. But, as you argue, even if it is your business, you’re better of giving it away and then charging for specific services than restricting access and charging for use. This is gapingvoid’s approach and you’d have to say he has a lot more exposure because his stuff is free to use. And he seems to be doing okay financially from it because this makes him attractive as a consultant to say, Microsoft.

]]> By: David Esrati http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/12/on-creative-commons-licensing/#comment-151330 David Esrati Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:25:08 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/12/on-creative-commons-licensing/#comment-151330 D"Arcy- or should it be "Sensi"- We've never met, but, since I stumbled upon your blog a couple of years ago- I've felt smarter- and inspired to do "more good." I believe in Karma more than dogma- and that living the golden rule is the easiest way to survive this thing we call life. I've never really given much thought to the CC license- but this post made me want to reexamine it. It's for that very reason, that every time your feed says there is something new here- I can't wait to read it. I am really grateful for your sharing of your thoughts- and ideas- and wish you a thousand fall return on your generosity. I keep coming back to something Nicholas Negroponte said in "Being Digital"- way back in, like 1996- "bits not atoms"- the whole point of turning your photos or ideas into a book seems almost so stone age. I'm currently working on a book with an idol of mine (again, thanks to the beauty of the power of this form of communication) and although I want her book to kick ass- and make her a lot of money (because, it is her job) I'd almost rather see it released online- with this post as the preference- and be able to count on people to pay what they think it's worth much like RadioHead just did with their new album. Unfortunately- that won't feed her kids or make the house payment- but maybe one day- in a Utopian world- it will, And D'Arcy, you'll have written the introduction to that in this post. Thank you my friend. D”Arcy- or should it be “Sensi”-
We’ve never met, but, since I stumbled upon your blog a couple of years ago- I’ve felt smarter- and inspired to do “more good.”
I believe in Karma more than dogma- and that living the golden rule is the easiest way to survive this thing we call life.
I’ve never really given much thought to the CC license- but this post made me want to reexamine it. It’s for that very reason, that every time your feed says there is something new here- I can’t wait to read it. I am really grateful for your sharing of your thoughts- and ideas- and wish you a thousand fall return on your generosity.
I keep coming back to something Nicholas Negroponte said in “Being Digital”- way back in, like 1996- “bits not atoms”- the whole point of turning your photos or ideas into a book seems almost so stone age. I’m currently working on a book with an idol of mine (again, thanks to the beauty of the power of this form of communication) and although I want her book to kick ass- and make her a lot of money (because, it is her job) I’d almost rather see it released online- with this post as the preference- and be able to count on people to pay what they think it’s worth much like RadioHead just did with their new album.
Unfortunately- that won’t feed her kids or make the house payment- but maybe one day- in a Utopian world- it will, And D’Arcy, you’ll have written the introduction to that in this post.
Thank you my friend.

]]> By: nickycakes http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/12/on-creative-commons-licensing/#comment-151291 nickycakes Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:21:01 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/12/on-creative-commons-licensing/#comment-151291 These days there isn't much you can do about people stealing your stuff and reusing it anyhow. Especially on a blog. These days there isn’t much you can do about people stealing your stuff and reusing it anyhow. Especially on a blog.

]]> By: dnorman http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/12/on-creative-commons-licensing/#comment-151285 dnorman Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:06:51 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/12/on-creative-commons-licensing/#comment-151285 Hey, now. That's MR. Norman! I've been stalled on the MSc for almost a decade now, never mind the PhD ;-) If you do work up a book of my photos, I'd love a copy! And I think you're right that the ND clause still allows quoting. I'm not sure about restating or reworking it, though. I'd want to consult a lawyer before making a decision on that one. Is it possible to specify the level of granularity of the ND clause? Does it apply to the entire work as a whole, or can it apply to individual chapters or sections? Grey areas... Hey, now. That’s MR. Norman! I’ve been stalled on the MSc for almost a decade now, never mind the PhD ;-)

If you do work up a book of my photos, I’d love a copy!

And I think you’re right that the ND clause still allows quoting. I’m not sure about restating or reworking it, though. I’d want to consult a lawyer before making a decision on that one. Is it possible to specify the level of granularity of the ND clause? Does it apply to the entire work as a whole, or can it apply to individual chapters or sections? Grey areas…

]]> By: Alan Levine http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/12/on-creative-commons-licensing/#comment-151282 Alan Levine Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:57:03 +0000 http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/12/on-creative-commons-licensing/#comment-151282 Very well explained, Dr. Norman. A strongly stated sentiment about the value of "giving it away". I pretty much have given away anything I created on these weird typewriter things going back to 1986. And I have gotten much more back in return. This year, I did get a $25 check for use of one photo, an all time high. I too am a "BY" guy, I think after reading an explanation of it by Beth Kanter, for pretty much the same reasons you cite. The number of documented times some big, nefarious entity was come down and swiped some obscure bloggers stuff and made a mint off of it must be... well, infinitesimally small. It's a fear based on projections (IMHO). But hey, you d have alot of coo pictures, so maybe I should get rich off of them.... The ND clause on print stuff is a bit greyer, as we do use it in fact for the NMC Horizon Report. It does not preclude quoting and restating the content. Isn't the history of writing all about making derivatives? I need to mull on that a bit longer. Very well explained, Dr. Norman. A strongly stated sentiment about the value of “giving it away”.

I pretty much have given away anything I created on these weird typewriter things going back to 1986. And I have gotten much more back in return.

This year, I did get a $25 check for use of one photo, an all time high.

I too am a “BY” guy, I think after reading an explanation of it by Beth Kanter, for pretty much the same reasons you cite. The number of documented times some big, nefarious entity was come down and swiped some obscure bloggers stuff and made a mint off of it must be… well, infinitesimally small. It’s a fear based on projections (IMHO).

But hey, you d have alot of coo pictures, so maybe I should get rich off of them….

The ND clause on print stuff is a bit greyer, as we do use it in fact for the NMC Horizon Report. It does not preclude quoting and restating the content. Isn’t the history of writing all about making derivatives? I need to mull on that a bit longer.

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