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		<title>By: davidicus</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/03/on-longer-term-thinking/#comment-193769</link>
		<dc:creator>davidicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;
What are we so unhappy about?

A.. Is it that we have electricity and
running water 24 hours a day, 7 Days a week?

B.. Is our unhappiness the result of
having air conditioning in the summer and heating in the winter?

C.. Could it be that 95.4 percent of
these unhappy folks have a job?

D.. Maybe it is the ability to walk
into a grocery store at any time and see more
food in moments than Darfur has seen in the last year?

E.. Maybe it is the ability to drive our
cars and trucks from the Pacific Ocean to the
Atlantic Ocean without having to present
identification papers as we move through each
state?

F.. Or possibly the hundreds of clean
and safe motels we would find along the way that can provide temporary shelter?

G.. I guess having thousands of
restaurants with varying cuisine from around the world is just not good enough either.

H. Or could it be that when we wreck
our car, emergency workers show up and provide services to help all and even send a helicopter to take you to the hospital.

I.. Perhaps you are one of the 70 percent of Americans who own a home.

J.. You may be upset with knowing that
in the unfortunate case of a fire, a group of
trained firefighters will appear in moments and use top notch equipment to extinguish the flames, thus saving you, your family, and your
belongings.

K.. Or if, while at home watching one
of your many flat screen TVs, a burglar or
prowler intrudes, an officer equipped with a gun and a bullet-proof vest will come to defend you and your family against attack or loss.

L.. This all in the backdrop of a
neighborhood free of bombs or militias raping and pillaging the residents. Neighborhoods where 90% of teenagers own cell phones and computers.

M.. How about the complete religious,
social and political freedoms we enjoy that are the envy of everyone in the world?

Maybe that is what has 67% of you folks
unhappy.

Fact is, we are the largest group of
ungrateful, spoiled brats the world has ever
seen. No wonder the world loves the U.S. , yet has a great disdain for its citizens. They see us for what we are. The most blessed people in the world who do nothing but complain about what we don&#039;t have, and what we hate about the country instead of thanking the good Lord we live here.

I know, I know. What about the president who took us into war and has no plan to
get us out? The president who has a measly 31
percent approval rating? Is this the same
president who guided the nation in the dark days after 9/11? The president that cut taxes to bring an economy out of recession? Could this be the same guy who has been called every name in the book for succeeding in keeping all the spoiled ungrateful brats safe from terrorist attacks? The commander in chief of an all-volunteer army that is out there defending you and me?

Did you hear how bad the President is
on the news or talk show? Did this news affect you so much, make you so unhappy you couldn&#039;t take a look around for yourself and see all the good things and be glad? Think about it......are you upset at the President because he actually caused you personal pain OR is it because the &#039;Media&#039; told you he was failing to kiss your sorry ungrateful behind every day. Make no mistake about it.

The troops in Iraq and Afghanistan have
volunteered to serve, and in many cases may have
died for your freedom. There is currently no
draft in this country. They didn&#039;t have to go. They are able to refuse to go and end up with either a &#039;&#039;general&#039;&#039; discharge, an
&#039;other than honorable&#039;&#039; discharge or, worst case scenario, a &#039;&#039;dishonorable&#039; &#039; discharge after a few days in the brig.

So why then the flat-out discontentment
in the minds of 69 percent of Americans?

Say what you want but I blame it on the
media. If it bleeds it leads and they
specialize in bad news. Everybody will watch a car crash with blood and guts How many will
watch kids selling lemonade at the corner? The media knows this and media outlets are for-profit corporations. They offer what sells, and when criticized, try to defend their actions by &#039;justifying&#039; them in one way or another Just ask why they tried to allow a murderer like O.J. Simpson to write a book about how he didn&#039;t kill his wife, but if he did he would have done it this way......Insane!

Turn off the TV, burn Newsweek, and use the New York Times for the bottom of your bird cage. Then start being grateful for all we have as country. There is exponentially more good than bad. We are among the most blessed people on Earth and should thank God several times a day, or at least be thankful and appreciative.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;<br />
What are we so unhappy about?</p>
<p>A.. Is it that we have electricity and<br />
running water 24 hours a day, 7 Days a week?</p>
<p>B.. Is our unhappiness the result of<br />
having air conditioning in the summer and heating in the winter?</p>
<p>C.. Could it be that 95.4 percent of<br />
these unhappy folks have a job?</p>
<p>D.. Maybe it is the ability to walk<br />
into a grocery store at any time and see more<br />
food in moments than Darfur has seen in the last year?</p>
<p>E.. Maybe it is the ability to drive our<br />
cars and trucks from the Pacific Ocean to the<br />
Atlantic Ocean without having to present<br />
identification papers as we move through each<br />
state?</p>
<p>F.. Or possibly the hundreds of clean<br />
and safe motels we would find along the way that can provide temporary shelter?</p>
<p>G.. I guess having thousands of<br />
restaurants with varying cuisine from around the world is just not good enough either.</p>
<p>H. Or could it be that when we wreck<br />
our car, emergency workers show up and provide services to help all and even send a helicopter to take you to the hospital.</p>
<p>I.. Perhaps you are one of the 70 percent of Americans who own a home.</p>
<p>J.. You may be upset with knowing that<br />
in the unfortunate case of a fire, a group of<br />
trained firefighters will appear in moments and use top notch equipment to extinguish the flames, thus saving you, your family, and your<br />
belongings.</p>
<p>K.. Or if, while at home watching one<br />
of your many flat screen TVs, a burglar or<br />
prowler intrudes, an officer equipped with a gun and a bullet-proof vest will come to defend you and your family against attack or loss.</p>
<p>L.. This all in the backdrop of a<br />
neighborhood free of bombs or militias raping and pillaging the residents. Neighborhoods where 90% of teenagers own cell phones and computers.</p>
<p>M.. How about the complete religious,<br />
social and political freedoms we enjoy that are the envy of everyone in the world?</p>
<p>Maybe that is what has 67% of you folks<br />
unhappy.</p>
<p>Fact is, we are the largest group of<br />
ungrateful, spoiled brats the world has ever<br />
seen. No wonder the world loves the U.S. , yet has a great disdain for its citizens. They see us for what we are. The most blessed people in the world who do nothing but complain about what we don&#8217;t have, and what we hate about the country instead of thanking the good Lord we live here.</p>
<p>I know, I know. What about the president who took us into war and has no plan to<br />
get us out? The president who has a measly 31<br />
percent approval rating? Is this the same<br />
president who guided the nation in the dark days after 9/11? The president that cut taxes to bring an economy out of recession? Could this be the same guy who has been called every name in the book for succeeding in keeping all the spoiled ungrateful brats safe from terrorist attacks? The commander in chief of an all-volunteer army that is out there defending you and me?</p>
<p>Did you hear how bad the President is<br />
on the news or talk show? Did this news affect you so much, make you so unhappy you couldn&#8217;t take a look around for yourself and see all the good things and be glad? Think about it&#8230;&#8230;are you upset at the President because he actually caused you personal pain OR is it because the &#8216;Media&#8217; told you he was failing to kiss your sorry ungrateful behind every day. Make no mistake about it.</p>
<p>The troops in Iraq and Afghanistan have<br />
volunteered to serve, and in many cases may have<br />
died for your freedom. There is currently no<br />
draft in this country. They didn&#8217;t have to go. They are able to refuse to go and end up with either a &#8221;general&#8221; discharge, an<br />
&#8216;other than honorable&#8221; discharge or, worst case scenario, a &#8221;dishonorable&#8217; &#8216; discharge after a few days in the brig.</p>
<p>So why then the flat-out discontentment<br />
in the minds of 69 percent of Americans?</p>
<p>Say what you want but I blame it on the<br />
media. If it bleeds it leads and they<br />
specialize in bad news. Everybody will watch a car crash with blood and guts How many will<br />
watch kids selling lemonade at the corner? The media knows this and media outlets are for-profit corporations. They offer what sells, and when criticized, try to defend their actions by &#8216;justifying&#8217; them in one way or another Just ask why they tried to allow a murderer like O.J. Simpson to write a book about how he didn&#8217;t kill his wife, but if he did he would have done it this way&#8230;&#8230;Insane!</p>
<p>Turn off the TV, burn Newsweek, and use the New York Times for the bottom of your bird cage. Then start being grateful for all we have as country. There is exponentially more good than bad. We are among the most blessed people on Earth and should thank God several times a day, or at least be thankful and appreciative.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/03/on-longer-term-thinking/#comment-150439</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No matter what, the show will go on... of this much we can be sure :) and we won&#039;t be around to worry about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No matter what, the show will go on&#8230; of this much we can be sure <img src='http://www.darcynorman.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  and we won&#8217;t be around to worry about it.</p>
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		<title>By: dnorman</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/03/on-longer-term-thinking/#comment-150422</link>
		<dc:creator>dnorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sam: but even in the dark ages, there was light. Rome wasn&#039;t the only game in town, and its fall left room for others to flourish. Like mammals after the fall of dinosaurs. In all things there is a silver lining, even the decline of civilization as we know it ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sam: but even in the dark ages, there was light. Rome wasn&#8217;t the only game in town, and its fall left room for others to flourish. Like mammals after the fall of dinosaurs. In all things there is a silver lining, even the decline of civilization as we know it <img src='http://www.darcynorman.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/03/on-longer-term-thinking/#comment-150242</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or head into another dark ages a la Rome?... who knows?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or head into another dark ages a la Rome?&#8230; who knows?</p>
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		<title>By: dnorman</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/03/on-longer-term-thinking/#comment-150213</link>
		<dc:creator>dnorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@David: I&#039;d hope the human race would survive the downfall of whatever this civilization is ;-) Like you say, we survived stuff before, and we&#039;ll survive it again. We will change, adapt, prune, but we&#039;ll make it through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David: I&#8217;d hope the human race would survive the downfall of whatever this civilization is <img src='http://www.darcynorman.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Like you say, we survived stuff before, and we&#8217;ll survive it again. We will change, adapt, prune, but we&#8217;ll make it through.</p>
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		<title>By: David Esrati</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/03/on-longer-term-thinking/#comment-150201</link>
		<dc:creator>David Esrati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 04:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D&#039;Arcy-
I&#039;ve been bothered by some of the same thoughts. If there is one word we need to redefine and understand better- it&#039;s &quot;Investment.&quot;
We&#039;ve changed a long term strategy to grow wealth into a nanosecond of program trading- 
we have to look at the big picture- and understand that we aren&#039;t just investing in what&#039;s right now- but what&#039;s right years from now. The repercussions from short term thinking and instant gratification could spell the end of the human race- just as we reach our zenith in terms of knowledge, communication, arts- etc. Not much different than the fall of Rome. History does repeat itself.
Thanks for your ramble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D&#8217;Arcy-<br />
I&#8217;ve been bothered by some of the same thoughts. If there is one word we need to redefine and understand better- it&#8217;s &#8220;Investment.&#8221;<br />
We&#8217;ve changed a long term strategy to grow wealth into a nanosecond of program trading-<br />
we have to look at the big picture- and understand that we aren&#8217;t just investing in what&#8217;s right now- but what&#8217;s right years from now. The repercussions from short term thinking and instant gratification could spell the end of the human race- just as we reach our zenith in terms of knowledge, communication, arts- etc. Not much different than the fall of Rome. History does repeat itself.<br />
Thanks for your ramble.</p>
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		<title>By: dnorman</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/03/on-longer-term-thinking/#comment-149978</link>
		<dc:creator>dnorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@davidicus: I never thought _I&#039;d_ be the dark one, either ;-) Next, I&#039;m growing (what&#039;s left of) my hair long, and buying a bunch of black...

I&#039;ve been thinking about it, and I did lose sight of the forest for the trees. Stepping back, this is the best time in history, and it&#039;s just getting better. It&#039;s not evenly distributed yet, but nearly every place on earth is better off than it was even 50 years ago. The stats gathered by the UN back this up, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/140&quot;&gt;as demonstrated so clearly by Hans Rosling&lt;/a&gt;.

I think my reaction/feeling about the state of the world is clouded by my own short-term thinking. I&#039;m working on that. Looking at things over the longer term (comparing to 50, 100, 1000 years ago) it&#039;s clear that things are much better. As populations gain economic strength, they increase their health and wellbeing. Means to an end.

@Sam: I agree that it&#039;s largely an information processing problem, at a global scale. Individuals might be better equipped to deal with the torrent of information and communication, but populations and nations have difficulty - it&#039;s harder to turn quickly at that scale - but I think we&#039;ll develop strategies for that as we all mature in this as a society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@davidicus: I never thought _I&#8217;d_ be the dark one, either <img src='http://www.darcynorman.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Next, I&#8217;m growing (what&#8217;s left of) my hair long, and buying a bunch of black&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about it, and I did lose sight of the forest for the trees. Stepping back, this is the best time in history, and it&#8217;s just getting better. It&#8217;s not evenly distributed yet, but nearly every place on earth is better off than it was even 50 years ago. The stats gathered by the UN back this up, <a href="http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/140">as demonstrated so clearly by Hans Rosling</a>.</p>
<p>I think my reaction/feeling about the state of the world is clouded by my own short-term thinking. I&#8217;m working on that. Looking at things over the longer term (comparing to 50, 100, 1000 years ago) it&#8217;s clear that things are much better. As populations gain economic strength, they increase their health and wellbeing. Means to an end.</p>
<p>@Sam: I agree that it&#8217;s largely an information processing problem, at a global scale. Individuals might be better equipped to deal with the torrent of information and communication, but populations and nations have difficulty &#8211; it&#8217;s harder to turn quickly at that scale &#8211; but I think we&#8217;ll develop strategies for that as we all mature in this as a society.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 03:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@davidcus: i agree with what you&#039;re saying, i do think that most people can&#039;t handle processing problems that are that much out of their control and it wouldn&#039;t really help them for someone to force them to do it or even made it clear for them... the only problem is that our &quot;leaders&quot; aren&#039;t really willing to address those problems either as they are not profitable and do not help their approval ratings, what i am saying is that there are no jobs or positions for people who worry about such problems even if they wanted to address them. as for the jobs, well i think to some extent i said that for effect, but i do consider quite a few a few corporate jobs whether it&#039;s working for McDonalds or working for a company whose CEO makes millions and pays employees a fraction of that in certain ways is purposeless, working as a CEO who gouges people for drugs they must have or destroys the environment for corporate greed or tests pesticides on humans is morally bankrupt,and generally working for a company whose only motivation is profit is psychologically bankrupt -- but i agree it&#039;s quite a bit better now than it has been in the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@davidcus: i agree with what you&#8217;re saying, i do think that most people can&#8217;t handle processing problems that are that much out of their control and it wouldn&#8217;t really help them for someone to force them to do it or even made it clear for them&#8230; the only problem is that our &#8220;leaders&#8221; aren&#8217;t really willing to address those problems either as they are not profitable and do not help their approval ratings, what i am saying is that there are no jobs or positions for people who worry about such problems even if they wanted to address them. as for the jobs, well i think to some extent i said that for effect, but i do consider quite a few a few corporate jobs whether it&#8217;s working for McDonalds or working for a company whose CEO makes millions and pays employees a fraction of that in certain ways is purposeless, working as a CEO who gouges people for drugs they must have or destroys the environment for corporate greed or tests pesticides on humans is morally bankrupt,and generally working for a company whose only motivation is profit is psychologically bankrupt &#8212; but i agree it&#8217;s quite a bit better now than it has been in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: davidicus</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/03/on-longer-term-thinking/#comment-149614</link>
		<dc:creator>davidicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.

hey Sam---a lot of what you consider de facto, many don&#039;t; also, most of your examples were much bigger problems than they are. are current generations too self-involved to see human history more clearly?

feel free to see the glass as half empty---i agree there&#039;s room for improvement---but ignoring, (or worse, obfuscating), the bigger brighter picture will mire people in paranoia and paralyzing depression more often than stir them to action.

today&#039;s jobs are purposeless? socially, morally, psychogically bankrupt?! reeks of hot air.

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<p>hey Sam&#8212;a lot of what you consider de facto, many don&#8217;t; also, most of your examples were much bigger problems than they are. are current generations too self-involved to see human history more clearly?</p>
<p>feel free to see the glass as half empty&#8212;i agree there&#8217;s room for improvement&#8212;but ignoring, (or worse, obfuscating), the bigger brighter picture will mire people in paranoia and paralyzing depression more often than stir them to action.</p>
<p>today&#8217;s jobs are purposeless? socially, morally, psychogically bankrupt?! reeks of hot air.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/12/03/on-longer-term-thinking/#comment-149090</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 21:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@davidcus: OTOH we&#039;re facing a global environmental catastrophe which has the potential to plunge the entire planet into serious shit, there are mass extinctions, the oceans are threatened to run completely dry, something like 1/2 of China doesn&#039;t have clean drinking water and the environment is complete shit, there are still people starving to death, women in the Congo are getting raped brutally, diseases are becoming more resistant to antibiotics and there is an ever growing threat of authoritarian governments making a return in a bigger way than ever, a million Iraqis killed for no good reason -- the list goes on. It&#039;s true that in our little part of the world we have it pretty damn good, but there is a lot unnecessary suffering and a huge potential for improvement... Also it&#039;s evident to most people that what we have now is not sustainable, it&#039;s simply a case of living beyond our means until we exhaust the sources that we&#039;re over using. All of this with a continuously looming overpopulation problem that is still not being well addressed and globalization that in the end promises to take away this economic shelters that have kept us protected from the misery that a lot of people in the rest of the world have to put up with... everything is as well as you might want to believe. Not to even mention the purposelessness of many of today&#039;s jobs and how socially, morally, and psychologically bankrupt they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@davidcus: OTOH we&#8217;re facing a global environmental catastrophe which has the potential to plunge the entire planet into serious shit, there are mass extinctions, the oceans are threatened to run completely dry, something like 1/2 of China doesn&#8217;t have clean drinking water and the environment is complete shit, there are still people starving to death, women in the Congo are getting raped brutally, diseases are becoming more resistant to antibiotics and there is an ever growing threat of authoritarian governments making a return in a bigger way than ever, a million Iraqis killed for no good reason &#8212; the list goes on. It&#8217;s true that in our little part of the world we have it pretty damn good, but there is a lot unnecessary suffering and a huge potential for improvement&#8230; Also it&#8217;s evident to most people that what we have now is not sustainable, it&#8217;s simply a case of living beyond our means until we exhaust the sources that we&#8217;re over using. All of this with a continuously looming overpopulation problem that is still not being well addressed and globalization that in the end promises to take away this economic shelters that have kept us protected from the misery that a lot of people in the rest of the world have to put up with&#8230; everything is as well as you might want to believe. Not to even mention the purposelessness of many of today&#8217;s jobs and how socially, morally, and psychologically bankrupt they are.</p>
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