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		<title>By: Kim Hansen</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/06/12/learning-object-repositories-20/#comment-154592</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We installed a careo application and installed a variety of content. We then asked a group of students and a group of teachers to evaluate the use of the LOR and the potential for various uses. Results were overwhelmingly positive from both groups. 

Much of the content consisted of archival material with local historic and educational value in addition to the regular links to materials, documents, and web based media. There was also a perceived need to record and store more local material, some which had been in storage in various formats for many years and not accessible by anyone. As such, the institution has a central role in managing and directing this archive. However, regular use of the material is another matter and requires a culture of students and teachers who have ready access to and use of the Internet, as well as a regular use of the computer in educational activities. Part of this is learned behaviour and it is just a matter of time (we already have examples, as the above acapaca.com).

The LOR eventually had a hardware failure on our new Apple server coupled with a backup failure. Rather than reinstalling the Careo we are currently looking at installing new software to carry on with this project. For us, the storage of the archival media is as important as the use of the LOR. However, usability and use is the other side of the coin and this makes the choice of software and the user interface perhaps more important, as is creating a culture of LOR use. 

Of special interest within this new educational paradigm are the online educational management platforms such as Moodle coupled with a repository such as DOOR or similar platform. But that&#039;s another discussion!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We installed a careo application and installed a variety of content. We then asked a group of students and a group of teachers to evaluate the use of the LOR and the potential for various uses. Results were overwhelmingly positive from both groups. </p>
<p>Much of the content consisted of archival material with local historic and educational value in addition to the regular links to materials, documents, and web based media. There was also a perceived need to record and store more local material, some which had been in storage in various formats for many years and not accessible by anyone. As such, the institution has a central role in managing and directing this archive. However, regular use of the material is another matter and requires a culture of students and teachers who have ready access to and use of the Internet, as well as a regular use of the computer in educational activities. Part of this is learned behaviour and it is just a matter of time (we already have examples, as the above acapaca.com).</p>
<p>The LOR eventually had a hardware failure on our new Apple server coupled with a backup failure. Rather than reinstalling the Careo we are currently looking at installing new software to carry on with this project. For us, the storage of the archival media is as important as the use of the LOR. However, usability and use is the other side of the coin and this makes the choice of software and the user interface perhaps more important, as is creating a culture of LOR use. </p>
<p>Of special interest within this new educational paradigm are the online educational management platforms such as Moodle coupled with a repository such as DOOR or similar platform. But that&#8217;s another discussion!!</p>
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		<title>By: dnorman</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/06/12/learning-object-repositories-20/#comment-83799</link>
		<dc:creator>dnorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 02:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heh. so that&#039;s probably you, Googlebot, Yahoobot, and a few automated spambots... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh. so that&#8217;s probably you, Googlebot, Yahoobot, and a few automated spambots&#8230; <img src='http://www.darcynorman.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/06/12/learning-object-repositories-20/#comment-83798</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, I just went into CAREO and it says that there are 7 users online RIGHT NOW!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, I just went into CAREO and it says that there are 7 users online RIGHT NOW!</p>
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		<title>By: Teemu</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/06/12/learning-object-repositories-20/#comment-83797</link>
		<dc:creator>Teemu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dnorman</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/06/12/learning-object-repositories-20/#comment-83794</link>
		<dc:creator>dnorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 16:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian, thanks for the counter-example. Altruism and the Greater Good get in the way more often than not. We need to be taking advantage of people&#039;s need to satisfy their own needs. Yacapaca sounds very cool. I&#039;ll be checking it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian, thanks for the counter-example. Altruism and the Greater Good get in the way more often than not. We need to be taking advantage of people&#8217;s need to satisfy their own needs. Yacapaca sounds very cool. I&#8217;ll be checking it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Grove-Stephensen</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/06/12/learning-object-repositories-20/#comment-83790</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Grove-Stephensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the risk of getting villified for a blatant plug, may I draw your attention to a counter-example? Yacapaca (see http://demo.yacapaca.com ) has 14,354 school teachers creating, sharing and using a repository of 18,941 quiz questions. 2,478 quizzes, and 1,467 free-text tasks all organised into 1,217 courses. This all serves the learning needs of 416,053 students (all data as of this morning). So it can be done.

I certainly agree with you about the core dynamic. The biggest mistakes we have made have been when we have tried to appeal to the altruism, or even enlightened self-interest, of users. Wrong! Yacapaca has only grown by appealing to the _unenlightened_ self-interest of our target users. They just want to get their teaching job done, and they really don&#039;t give a stuff about metadata, discovery, and all the rest that we thought was so important early on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the risk of getting villified for a blatant plug, may I draw your attention to a counter-example? Yacapaca (see <a href="http://demo.yacapaca.com" rel="nofollow">http://demo.yacapaca.com</a> ) has 14,354 school teachers creating, sharing and using a repository of 18,941 quiz questions. 2,478 quizzes, and 1,467 free-text tasks all organised into 1,217 courses. This all serves the learning needs of 416,053 students (all data as of this morning). So it can be done.</p>
<p>I certainly agree with you about the core dynamic. The biggest mistakes we have made have been when we have tried to appeal to the altruism, or even enlightened self-interest, of users. Wrong! Yacapaca has only grown by appealing to the _unenlightened_ self-interest of our target users. They just want to get their teaching job done, and they really don&#8217;t give a stuff about metadata, discovery, and all the rest that we thought was so important early on.</p>
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		<title>By: David Davies&#8217; Weblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Are learning object repositories struggling to find content too?</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/06/12/learning-object-repositories-20/#comment-83789</link>
		<dc:creator>David Davies&#8217; Weblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Are learning object repositories struggling to find content too?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 07:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a timely parallel post D&#8217;Arcy Norman reflects on why many learning object repositories are bereft of content (other than mandated content from [...]</description>
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		<title>By: lauren&#8217;s library blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2007-06-13</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/06/12/learning-object-repositories-20/#comment-83788</link>
		<dc:creator>lauren&#8217;s library blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2007-06-13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 05:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] D’Arcy Norman dot net » Blog Archive » Learning Object Repositories 2.0 (tags: learning.objects repositories drupal ideas) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: dnorman</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/06/12/learning-object-repositories-20/#comment-83787</link>
		<dc:creator>dnorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 03:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, that&#039;s an excellent point. Learning Object Repositories were designed and built to satisfy (real and/or imagined) needs of an Institution.

If I look at the most successful web apps that I use, I use each and every one of them because they&#039;re helpful to ME. I don&#039;t use them to be social (well, maybe Twitter), or even to share (as the primary goal of the activity). By and large, I use them because they&#039;re useful to me. They help me archive stuff. Or organize it so I can find it later. Or learn new things, or refine my understanding of things. That anyone else might benefit from my use of these apps is really just gravy.

OK. It might not be quite as cut-and-dry as that, but it&#039;s an aspect that was completely overlooked by the LOR work. Why would anyone contribute? What needs were being met? If its only goal was to satisfy the Institution, that&#039;s fine, and that&#039;s what happened. But that&#039;s also why it failed, from a wider perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, that&#8217;s an excellent point. Learning Object Repositories were designed and built to satisfy (real and/or imagined) needs of an Institution.</p>
<p>If I look at the most successful web apps that I use, I use each and every one of them because they&#8217;re helpful to ME. I don&#8217;t use them to be social (well, maybe Twitter), or even to share (as the primary goal of the activity). By and large, I use them because they&#8217;re useful to me. They help me archive stuff. Or organize it so I can find it later. Or learn new things, or refine my understanding of things. That anyone else might benefit from my use of these apps is really just gravy.</p>
<p>OK. It might not be quite as cut-and-dry as that, but it&#8217;s an aspect that was completely overlooked by the LOR work. Why would anyone contribute? What needs were being met? If its only goal was to satisfy the Institution, that&#8217;s fine, and that&#8217;s what happened. But that&#8217;s also why it failed, from a wider perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: incorporated subversion - education, media, community &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Good LORd</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/06/12/learning-object-repositories-20/#comment-83786</link>
		<dc:creator>incorporated subversion - education, media, community &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Good LORd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 02:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Good LORd  A bunch of folks (myself included) took up the task of building software to let people easily publish, describe, share, find (and hopefully use) digital assets or learning objects (assets with a bunch of metadata tacked on the side). I think it’s fair to say that the experiments failed pretty dramatically. The only content that was added to CAREO was done under the auspices of Large Projects and/or Institutions. Individuals, by and large, didn’t spend much time with it, or its ilk. Why is that? - D&#8217;Arcy Norman [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Good LORd  A bunch of folks (myself included) took up the task of building software to let people easily publish, describe, share, find (and hopefully use) digital assets or learning objects (assets with a bunch of metadata tacked on the side). I think it’s fair to say that the experiments failed pretty dramatically. The only content that was added to CAREO was done under the auspices of Large Projects and/or Institutions. Individuals, by and large, didn’t spend much time with it, or its ilk. Why is that? &#8211; D&#8217;Arcy Norman [...]</p>
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