Comments on: Political Faux Pas http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/03/01/political-faux-pas/ just a lowly edtech geek, mumble mumble university of calgary Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:41:04 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Sami Khan http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/03/01/political-faux-pas/#comment-83111 Sami Khan Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 156111392#comment-83111 I do often feel that we're all losing all of our sense of decency in order to win... Without a social contract, everything situation is up, relationships are only as good as what they can get you... This type of zero sum thinking really is saddening but it's an often expressed truth of our reality these days. I feel bad when I find that I have made a faux pas like that, without even realizing it until alter on. I do often feel that we’re all losing all of our sense of decency in order to win… Without a social contract, everything situation is up, relationships are only as good as what they can get you… This type of zero sum thinking really is saddening but it’s an often expressed truth of our reality these days. I feel bad when I find that I have made a faux pas like that, without even realizing it until alter on.

]]> By: John Winslow http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/03/01/political-faux-pas/#comment-83130 John Winslow Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 156111392#comment-83130 That is definitely tacky. I have on ocassion given someone my card at a funeral. This may be someone I have just met and plan to get together with at a later date. It is definitely not for the purpose of garnering business, or VOTES! It is simply easier than pulling out pen and searching for paper to write down the same information that is already on my cards. Hmmmm... Okay, I won't say anything about the real world. It ended in the seventies. Deepest condolences on your loss. That is definitely tacky. I have on ocassion given someone my card at a funeral. This may be someone I have just met and plan to get together with at a later date. It is definitely not for the purpose of garnering business, or VOTES! It is simply easier than pulling out pen and searching for paper to write down the same information that is already on my cards.

Hmmmm… Okay, I won’t say anything about the real world. It ended in the seventies.

Deepest condolences on your loss.

]]> By: dnorman http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/03/01/political-faux-pas/#comment-83133 dnorman Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 156111392#comment-83133 Sami, I find it hard to believe that you'd ever do anything tacky like this. Decency should trump networking every time. Karma is a powerful thing. And this guy is running completely against the Cluetrain - this wasn't a conversation, it was a veiled sales pitch. Sami, I find it hard to believe that you’d ever do anything tacky like this. Decency should trump networking every time. Karma is a powerful thing. And this guy is running completely against the Cluetrain – this wasn’t a conversation, it was a veiled sales pitch.

]]> By: dnorman http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/03/01/political-faux-pas/#comment-83137 dnorman Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 156111392#comment-83137 Right. Which is why I didn't name names or link to his site. No need to blow away a career over what is hopefully a single silly mistake. In a perfect world, there would be no parties and no rhetoric. We're almost at a place where we can effectively represent ourselves without having to designate an individual to somehow appropriately stand in for tens of thousands of people because they can't all physically be in the capitol building. The problem with the current system is that it forces those with political aspirations to gather the most votes, at any cost. Decency is probably the first thing to go. Of course, now someone will pipe in and tell me that "in the real world" blahdeblahblah. The real world is dysfunctional. We can actually fix that. Anything less than that is a cop out. Right. Which is why I didn’t name names or link to his site. No need to blow away a career over what is hopefully a single silly mistake. In a perfect world, there would be no parties and no rhetoric. We’re almost at a place where we can effectively represent ourselves without having to designate an individual to somehow appropriately stand in for tens of thousands of people because they can’t all physically be in the capitol building. The problem with the current system is that it forces those with political aspirations to gather the most votes, at any cost. Decency is probably the first thing to go.

Of course, now someone will pipe in and tell me that “in the real world” blahdeblahblah. The real world is dysfunctional. We can actually fix that. Anything less than that is a cop out.

]]> By: Sami Khan http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/03/01/political-faux-pas/#comment-83138 Sami Khan Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 156111392#comment-83138 Well I find it hard to believe as well ;-) and I would never do anything that boneheaded, but we all have our moments of stupidity (that we regret) and I do think once this guy realizes it, he'll regret it... But I am so cynical in general about the direction in which society and public dealing in general is going, it doesn't surprise me all that much. At the University whenever we have SU elections, we see a group of people acting a certain way to get the votes and once it's over, you never hear from them again and in general that's the way politics seems to be headed. Recently, there was a debate about the issue with the Supreme Court saying that the detention certificates were against the Charter, and then when you go and hear the debate, you don't get any real debate about the merits of the argument and what it means to our society... Instead, it's just the same drivel party lines and meaningless rhetoric from where each party stands... Such discourse is not only meaningless, but philosophically it's almost narcissistic (from the standpoint of the party) in that you're simply concerned about the party line and not about the actual issue and its implications... and that's all you're getting from this politician, just plain flat narcissism at the most inopportune time and the sad thing is that he doesn't even realize it. Well I find it hard to believe as well ;-) and I would never do anything that boneheaded, but we all have our moments of stupidity (that we regret) and I do think once this guy realizes it, he’ll regret it… But I am so cynical in general about the direction in which society and public dealing in general is going, it doesn’t surprise me all that much. At the University whenever we have SU elections, we see a group of people acting a certain way to get the votes and once it’s over, you never hear from them again and in general that’s the way politics seems to be headed. Recently, there was a debate about the issue with the Supreme Court saying that the detention certificates were against the Charter, and then when you go and hear the debate, you don’t get any real debate about the merits of the argument and what it means to our society… Instead, it’s just the same drivel party lines and meaningless rhetoric from where each party stands… Such discourse is not only meaningless, but philosophically it’s almost narcissistic (from the standpoint of the party) in that you’re simply concerned about the party line and not about the actual issue and its implications… and that’s all you’re getting from this politician, just plain flat narcissism at the most inopportune time and the sad thing is that he doesn’t even realize it.

]]> By: Sami Khan http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/03/01/political-faux-pas/#comment-83149 Sami Khan Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 156111392#comment-83149 Imagine by Lennon starts playing... Imagine by Lennon starts playing…

]]> By: Jim http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/03/01/political-faux-pas/#comment-83151 Jim Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 156111392#comment-83151 <blockquote>The real world is dysfunctional. We can actually fix that. Anything less than that is a cop out.</blockquote> Amen, brother.

The real world is dysfunctional. We can actually fix that. Anything less than that is a cop out.

Amen, brother.

]]> By: dnorman http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/03/01/political-faux-pas/#comment-83162 dnorman Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 156111392#comment-83162 sweet! we've already got a soundtrack! sweet! we’ve already got a soundtrack!

]]> By: Quote Maniac http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/03/01/political-faux-pas/#comment-83187 Quote Maniac Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 156111392#comment-83187 Some people just have the guts to do that. They do not care about others. The most important thing is what they gain from you. I've met many politicians like that. And most of the time, I just walk away. Even if he offered a handshake, I would just ignore it. If he can't respect the dead, he got no time respecting me or you. Some people just have the guts to do that. They do not care about others. The most important thing is what they gain from you.

I’ve met many politicians like that. And most of the time, I just walk away. Even if he offered a handshake, I would just ignore it.

If he can’t respect the dead, he got no time respecting me or you.

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