<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Patent Freedom Foundation</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/02/08/patent-freedom-foundation/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/02/08/patent-freedom-foundation/</link>
	<description>apparently much happier in person</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:35:07 -0700</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: dnorman</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/02/08/patent-freedom-foundation/#comment-82892</link>
		<dc:creator>dnorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">1659780980#comment-82892</guid>
		<description>yeah yeah. gods forbid some money is left on the table. every resource must be extracted with the highest possible efficiency and effectiveness. Maybe they could sell advertising space on the patents themselves, as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah yeah. gods forbid some money is left on the table. every resource must be extracted with the highest possible efficiency and effectiveness. Maybe they could sell advertising space on the patents themselves, as well?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: davidicus</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/02/08/patent-freedom-foundation/#comment-83009</link>
		<dc:creator>davidicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">1659780980#comment-83009</guid>
		<description>.

the new economy: information is the new currency. currently, patents are worth money, but in the future money may be worth patents. 

absolutely.

.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.</p>
<p>the new economy: information is the new currency. currently, patents are worth money, but in the future money may be worth patents. </p>
<p>absolutely.</p>
<p>.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: dnorman</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/02/08/patent-freedom-foundation/#comment-83010</link>
		<dc:creator>dnorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">1659780980#comment-83010</guid>
		<description>heh. I&#039;ll pay my mortgage in patents. must keep innovating to prevent termination. innovate or die!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh. I&#8217;ll pay my mortgage in patents. must keep innovating to prevent termination. innovate or die!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Sami Khan</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/02/08/patent-freedom-foundation/#comment-83021</link>
		<dc:creator>Sami Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">1659780980#comment-83021</guid>
		<description>Turing over patents to a third party organization so that they never be used would be a violation of fiduciary duty that each company has to its shareholders. Those patents are worth dollars, and such a move would be like giving away money, just because its the right thing to do. 

What does company A gain if company B doesn&#039;t do the same thing, what if there is company C that comes out of no where doing more or less the same thing, but then files a patent for a little tiny adjustment that makes their product better than yours... You now have a patent that can&#039;t be enforced and they have a product that uses essentially your idea, and changes it enough to get an advantage on you.

Also, each company would want to do a cost-benefit, that would essentially lead to the total cost of this project to be the same as if you licensed the patent from the company, because why would any company leave money on the table? Doing so would be again against their fiduciary duty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turing over patents to a third party organization so that they never be used would be a violation of fiduciary duty that each company has to its shareholders. Those patents are worth dollars, and such a move would be like giving away money, just because its the right thing to do. </p>
<p>What does company A gain if company B doesn&#8217;t do the same thing, what if there is company C that comes out of no where doing more or less the same thing, but then files a patent for a little tiny adjustment that makes their product better than yours&#8230; You now have a patent that can&#8217;t be enforced and they have a product that uses essentially your idea, and changes it enough to get an advantage on you.</p>
<p>Also, each company would want to do a cost-benefit, that would essentially lead to the total cost of this project to be the same as if you licensed the patent from the company, because why would any company leave money on the table? Doing so would be again against their fiduciary duty.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: dnorman</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/02/08/patent-freedom-foundation/#comment-83028</link>
		<dc:creator>dnorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">1659780980#comment-83028</guid>
		<description>Gary - my proposal does not assume only two reasons for filing a patent, nor does it assume that every patent would be appropriate for such open protection. Companies are, of course, free to do anything they want, including using patents to recover their R&amp;D investment. I wasn&#039;t trying to suggest that R&amp;D be left unprotected - patents covering that kind of activity are valid and important.

What I was trying to suggest is that companies that file patents on already-developed processes and inventions, in order to protect themselves from silly patents filed on obvious inventions, be able to secure protection from litigation while essentially &quot;parking&quot; the patent. This could be seen as potentially addressing the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_anticommons&quot;&gt;Tragedy of the Anticommons&lt;/a&gt;, at least partially.

I&#039;m not going to address your deliberately belligerent remarks, except to say that both Sami and davidicus are friends of mine in the real world, and I value their opinions much more than some semi-anonymous, confrontational drive-by commenter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary &#8211; my proposal does not assume only two reasons for filing a patent, nor does it assume that every patent would be appropriate for such open protection. Companies are, of course, free to do anything they want, including using patents to recover their R&#038;D investment. I wasn&#8217;t trying to suggest that R&#038;D be left unprotected &#8211; patents covering that kind of activity are valid and important.</p>
<p>What I was trying to suggest is that companies that file patents on already-developed processes and inventions, in order to protect themselves from silly patents filed on obvious inventions, be able to secure protection from litigation while essentially &#8220;parking&#8221; the patent. This could be seen as potentially addressing the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_anticommons">Tragedy of the Anticommons</a>, at least partially.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to address your deliberately belligerent remarks, except to say that both Sami and davidicus are friends of mine in the real world, and I value their opinions much more than some semi-anonymous, confrontational drive-by commenter.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Gary Knight</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/02/08/patent-freedom-foundation/#comment-83040</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">1659780980#comment-83040</guid>
		<description>Your proposal assumes there are only two reasons for filing for patent -- lock up the patent on the invention before someone else locks it up or a malicious intent &quot;to make an uneven playing field.&quot; You miss the real reason most organizations go after patents: to be able to recoup their investment in developing things. 

If someone (wheter a company or a person) sinks $X into developing an invention and they DON&#039;T have a patent on it, then as soon as it is rolled out the competitors can copy it. The competitors then get free R&amp;D courtesy of the company that didn&#039;t have a patent. 

Maybe that&#039;s OK in your imaginary universe where everything&#039;s open source, but out here in the real world that quickly comes to mean that it stops making sense for the company to dump $X into developing new things when some competitor will reap the benefits of that investment. That discourages investment in innovation. The founding fathers understood that and that&#039;s why they put the ability for Congress to secure exclusive rights to authors and inventors into the Constitution [Article 1, Section 8].

Your first poster is dead on. Companies that give away their assets aren&#039;t doing their job. But instead of engaging his argument, you just mock him. That&#039;s a sign or either arrogance or intellectual weakness (or probably both). You need to grow up, get out of your idealistic academic shell, and stop ignoring the obvious -- that companies aren&#039;t philanthropic organizations, that they do have fiduciary responsibilities, and that things like returns on investment are what drive most innovation, not goodwill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your proposal assumes there are only two reasons for filing for patent &#8212; lock up the patent on the invention before someone else locks it up or a malicious intent &#8220;to make an uneven playing field.&#8221; You miss the real reason most organizations go after patents: to be able to recoup their investment in developing things. </p>
<p>If someone (wheter a company or a person) sinks $X into developing an invention and they DON&#8217;T have a patent on it, then as soon as it is rolled out the competitors can copy it. The competitors then get free R&#038;D courtesy of the company that didn&#8217;t have a patent. </p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s OK in your imaginary universe where everything&#8217;s open source, but out here in the real world that quickly comes to mean that it stops making sense for the company to dump $X into developing new things when some competitor will reap the benefits of that investment. That discourages investment in innovation. The founding fathers understood that and that&#8217;s why they put the ability for Congress to secure exclusive rights to authors and inventors into the Constitution [Article 1, Section 8].</p>
<p>Your first poster is dead on. Companies that give away their assets aren&#8217;t doing their job. But instead of engaging his argument, you just mock him. That&#8217;s a sign or either arrogance or intellectual weakness (or probably both). You need to grow up, get out of your idealistic academic shell, and stop ignoring the obvious &#8212; that companies aren&#8217;t philanthropic organizations, that they do have fiduciary responsibilities, and that things like returns on investment are what drive most innovation, not goodwill.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: dnorman</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/02/08/patent-freedom-foundation/#comment-83045</link>
		<dc:creator>dnorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">1659780980#comment-83045</guid>
		<description>Apparently I&#039;m not insane (or, at least I&#039;m not alone). &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/13/opinion/13crichton.html?_r=1&amp;oref=slogin&quot;&gt;Michael Crichton sees a similar problem with genetic patents&lt;/a&gt;. The stakes for that are a bit higher (i.e., people will die), but the concept is the same. Silly patents are harmful to society, but good for companies.

Whether or not my proposal is the right solution isn&#039;t the important takeaway message. There&#039;s a problem with the way the patent system is set up. It needs to be solved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently I&#8217;m not insane (or, at least I&#8217;m not alone). <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/13/opinion/13crichton.html?_r=1&#038;oref=slogin">Michael Crichton sees a similar problem with genetic patents</a>. The stakes for that are a bit higher (i.e., people will die), but the concept is the same. Silly patents are harmful to society, but good for companies.</p>
<p>Whether or not my proposal is the right solution isn&#8217;t the important takeaway message. There&#8217;s a problem with the way the patent system is set up. It needs to be solved.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
