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	<description>just a lowly edtech geek, mumble mumble university of calgary</description>
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		<title>By: Sami Khan</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/11/04/spam-blocking-redux/#comment-82595</link>
		<dc:creator>Sami Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally enjoy moderating all of my comments. Often people feel like they&#039;re done something wrong and that is not to say that now and then I don&#039;t see comments, but for the most part its been pretty good. Also getting a module that locks sending any more comments after a certain period of time can be useful, however limiting in the conversations... They&#039;re rats, whatchu gonna do but try to block them..? A week ago some guy decided I guess it would be funny to send thousands of bots to a particular page about a particular president&#039;s policies. I deleted the page, the bot attack went away after quite a bit of time may I add after I deleted the page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally enjoy moderating all of my comments. Often people feel like they&#8217;re done something wrong and that is not to say that now and then I don&#8217;t see comments, but for the most part its been pretty good. Also getting a module that locks sending any more comments after a certain period of time can be useful, however limiting in the conversations&#8230; They&#8217;re rats, whatchu gonna do but try to block them..? A week ago some guy decided I guess it would be funny to send thousands of bots to a particular page about a particular president&#8217;s policies. I deleted the page, the bot attack went away after quite a bit of time may I add after I deleted the page.</p>
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		<title>By: dnorman</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/11/04/spam-blocking-redux/#comment-82596</link>
		<dc:creator>dnorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to disable comments after 30 days, but that prevents long discussions, or picking up a conversation after a break. I&#039;ve avoided moderating comments, because I always feel unsure when I submit a comment to a moderated blog. Will the moderator see it? will it be buried in a pile of spam? when will it be approved? etc... it breaks down the fluidity of a conversation. But it&#039;s one of the more effective anti-spam strategies. Stupid spammers, wrecking everything again...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to disable comments after 30 days, but that prevents long discussions, or picking up a conversation after a break. I&#8217;ve avoided moderating comments, because I always feel unsure when I submit a comment to a moderated blog. Will the moderator see it? will it be buried in a pile of spam? when will it be approved? etc&#8230; it breaks down the fluidity of a conversation. But it&#8217;s one of the more effective anti-spam strategies. Stupid spammers, wrecking everything again&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb G</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/11/04/spam-blocking-redux/#comment-82597</link>
		<dc:creator>Caleb G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it would be worth looking into some .htaccess magic and/or mod_security if this stuff doesn&#039;t relent. Just a thought. All of those requests to apache, php, and mysql eats up a lot of cycles even if you can keep them unpublished...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it would be worth looking into some .htaccess magic and/or mod_security if this stuff doesn&#8217;t relent. Just a thought. All of those requests to apache, php, and mysql eats up a lot of cycles even if you can keep them unpublished&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb G</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/11/04/spam-blocking-redux/#comment-82602</link>
		<dc:creator>Caleb G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got this as an error message at the top of the page after I posted my first comment btw:

user warning: Table &#039;drupalblog.spam_surbl_cctlds&#039; doesn&#039;t exist query: SELECT ccid FROM spam_surbl_cctlds WHERE cc = &#039;highervisibilitywebsites.com&#039; in /home/.cruncher/dnorman/darcynorman.net/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 121.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got this as an error message at the top of the page after I posted my first comment btw:</p>
<p>user warning: Table &#8216;drupalblog.spam_surbl_cctlds&#8217; doesn&#8217;t exist query: SELECT ccid FROM spam_surbl_cctlds WHERE cc = &#8216;highervisibilitywebsites.com&#8217; in /home/.cruncher/dnorman/darcynorman.net/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 121.</p>
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		<title>By: dnorman</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/11/04/spam-blocking-redux/#comment-82604</link>
		<dc:creator>dnorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve added some .htaccess directives to disallow ip addresses, but at least one of the attackers has access to a zombie network, with hundreds of different IP addresses from various networks all sending the comment spam attempts.

The spam blocking got effective enough that they appear to have given up on posting actual link content, and are just salting the earth with complete nonsense (and no links).

What a waste of resources (theirs and mine). I stepped away from the computer to have supper with the family, and play some games with my son, only to come back to a couple hundred vindictive crap comment posts. Nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve added some .htaccess directives to disallow ip addresses, but at least one of the attackers has access to a zombie network, with hundreds of different IP addresses from various networks all sending the comment spam attempts.</p>
<p>The spam blocking got effective enough that they appear to have given up on posting actual link content, and are just salting the earth with complete nonsense (and no links).</p>
<p>What a waste of resources (theirs and mine). I stepped away from the computer to have supper with the family, and play some games with my son, only to come back to a couple hundred vindictive crap comment posts. Nice.</p>
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		<title>By: dnorman</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/11/04/spam-blocking-redux/#comment-82605</link>
		<dc:creator>dnorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and thanks for the heads-up on the error, Caleb. I wasn&#039;t seeing that because I&#039;m logged in, and that part of the spam blocker is turned off for logged-in users. It should be fixed now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and thanks for the heads-up on the error, Caleb. I wasn&#8217;t seeing that because I&#8217;m logged in, and that part of the spam blocker is turned off for logged-in users. It should be fixed now.</p>
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		<title>By: dnorman</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/11/04/spam-blocking-redux/#comment-82613</link>
		<dc:creator>dnorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hidden form fields only work until the bot wrangler decides to check the form and add some code to lookup/generate values for those. I&#039;d tried that long ago, back when I was using WordPress. It didn&#039;t work for very long.

Kittens? Really. It&#039;s cute, but seems like a rather gimmicky hoop to make people jump through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hidden form fields only work until the bot wrangler decides to check the form and add some code to lookup/generate values for those. I&#8217;d tried that long ago, back when I was using WordPress. It didn&#8217;t work for very long.</p>
<p>Kittens? Really. It&#8217;s cute, but seems like a rather gimmicky hoop to make people jump through.</p>
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		<title>By: dalin</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/11/04/spam-blocking-redux/#comment-82614</link>
		<dc:creator>dalin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey darcy, 
You might take a look at these two options:

http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=1836
-hidden form fields


http://www.kittenauth.com/
- a new drupal module</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey darcy,<br />
You might take a look at these two options:</p>
<p><a href="http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=1836" rel="nofollow">http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=1836</a><br />
-hidden form fields</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kittenauth.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.kittenauth.com/</a><br />
- a new drupal module</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb  G</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/11/04/spam-blocking-redux/#comment-82620</link>
		<dc:creator>Caleb  G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem dnorman. There are other htaccess methods than ip banning. This article can get you going in the right direction and then if you want to know anything more may start googling:

http://diveintomark.org/archives/2003/02/26/how_to_block_spambots_ban_spybots_and_tell_unwanted_robots_to_go_to_hell

And then there is always mod_security which is much more robust:

http://atomicplayboy.net/blog/2005/01/30/an-introduction-to-mod-security/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem dnorman. There are other htaccess methods than ip banning. This article can get you going in the right direction and then if you want to know anything more may start googling:</p>
<p><a href="http://diveintomark.org/archives/2003/02/26/how_to_block_spambots_ban_spybots_and_tell_unwanted_robots_to_go_to_hell" rel="nofollow">http://diveintomark.org/archives/2003/02/26/how_to_block_spambots_ban_spybots_and_tell_unwanted_robots_to_go_to_hell</a></p>
<p>And then there is always mod_security which is much more robust:</p>
<p><a href="http://atomicplayboy.net/blog/2005/01/30/an-introduction-to-mod-security/" rel="nofollow">http://atomicplayboy.net/blog/2005/01/30/an-introduction-to-mod-security/</a></p>
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