Comments on: Dreamhost ups account limits http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/10/03/dreamhost-ups-account-limits/ apparently much happier in person Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:45:12 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: dnorman http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/10/03/dreamhost-ups-account-limits/#comment-82308 dnorman Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 16771294#comment-82308 Bill - since Dreamhost has enabled Appleshare, it should be pretty straightforward to set up a shared family space, ala .Mac webdisk. Also, WebDAV is an easy setup. The one thing I REALLY miss from my .Mac account is iSync. It's a totally arbitrary commercial decision to tie it solely to a .Mac account. Why not tie it to a MacOSX Server? Or to a Appleshare volume? Is there much logic on the server for it, or could a more simple rsync or subversion solution work? Bill – since Dreamhost has enabled Appleshare, it should be pretty straightforward to set up a shared family space, ala .Mac webdisk. Also, WebDAV is an easy setup.

The one thing I REALLY miss from my .Mac account is iSync. It’s a totally arbitrary commercial decision to tie it solely to a .Mac account. Why not tie it to a MacOSX Server? Or to a Appleshare volume? Is there much logic on the server for it, or could a more simple rsync or subversion solution work?

]]> By: Bill Kempthorne http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/10/03/dreamhost-ups-account-limits/#comment-82353 Bill Kempthorne Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 16771294#comment-82353 I recently changed from Vizaweb to Dreamhost. Vizaweb got their domain hijacked and knocked everyone off for days - could risk waiting for them to fix it. I went partly because of your discussions about searching for a new host a while back. I went for the $15 package they had on sale which now went to 400GBs, so I'm a pretty happy camper too. But here's the rub - my .Mac subscription is up in 7 days. I support several members of my family on .Mac but I get 4 email address and 1 GB of disk space for the same as my hosting costs with DH. I guess I'm going to spend the next week figuring how to get the iApps all working with WebDav from Dreamhost. I recently changed from Vizaweb to Dreamhost. Vizaweb got their domain hijacked and knocked everyone off for days – could risk waiting for them to fix it. I went partly because of your discussions about searching for a new host a while back.

I went for the $15 package they had on sale which now went to 400GBs, so I’m a pretty happy camper too. But here’s the rub – my .Mac subscription is up in 7 days. I support several members of my family on .Mac but I get 4 email address and 1 GB of disk space for the same as my hosting costs with DH. I guess I’m going to spend the next week figuring how to get the iApps all working with WebDav from Dreamhost.

]]> By: Sami Khan http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/10/03/dreamhost-ups-account-limits/#comment-82370 Sami Khan Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 16771294#comment-82370 I don't like WebDAV at all, it's the flakiest file transfer system that I know. Perhaps its better with a mac? I don’t like WebDAV at all, it’s the flakiest file transfer system that I know. Perhaps its better with a mac?

]]> By: Sami Khan http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/10/03/dreamhost-ups-account-limits/#comment-82413 Sami Khan Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 16771294#comment-82413 http://blog.dreamhosters.com/kbase/index.cgi?area=689 http://blog.dreamhosters.com/kbase/index.cgi?area=689

]]> By: dnorman http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/10/03/dreamhost-ups-account-limits/#comment-82418 dnorman Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 16771294#comment-82418 it's a webobjects app, so the elephant should run anywhere that can run java. the image thumbnail preview generator was initially macosx-only, but is now cross-platform. I'm not sure what java services Dreamhost offers - but if they do, it could work there. I know of others using dedicated servers at GoDaddy, but that involved some futzing with apache modules, etc... Ideally, you'd build Pachyderm as a servlet package, and just deploy in Tomcat. it’s a webobjects app, so the elephant should run anywhere that can run java. the image thumbnail preview generator was initially macosx-only, but is now cross-platform. I’m not sure what java services Dreamhost offers – but if they do, it could work there. I know of others using dedicated servers at GoDaddy, but that involved some futzing with apache modules, etc… Ideally, you’d build Pachyderm as a servlet package, and just deploy in Tomcat.

]]> By: Jim http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/10/03/dreamhost-ups-account-limits/#comment-82420 Jim Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 16771294#comment-82420 Darcy, We here at UMW have been wondering if we would be able to run a Pachyderm installation off of Dreamhost. Rachel Smith gave us an excellent demonstration of Pachyderm last May and we are currently considering an installation for some museum projects for the Spring. Can you offer any advice on what webhosting provider would be best for such an application -I vaguely remember Rachel suggesting that their are certain requirements for running Pachyderm that would necessitate Mac-based server software, but I amy be off on this. Thanks! Darcy,

We here at UMW have been wondering if we would be able to run a Pachyderm installation off of Dreamhost. Rachel Smith gave us an excellent demonstration of Pachyderm last May and we are currently considering an installation for some museum projects for the Spring. Can you offer any advice on what webhosting provider would be best for such an application -I vaguely remember Rachel suggesting that their are certain requirements for running Pachyderm that would necessitate Mac-based server software, but I amy be off on this.

Thanks!

]]> By: Sami Khan http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/10/03/dreamhost-ups-account-limits/#comment-82454 Sami Khan Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 16771294#comment-82454 I don't quite agree with your logic. The cost of bandwidth hasn't gone down, it's about the same, though large hosts close to backbones can get it relatively cheap, it's still not much cheaper than it was. The fact is that most people don't use the space nor the bandwidth that they are offered. If everyone was to, they would soon be out of business. Instead, they offer you that much knowing that about 20% will take them up on it, and the rest of the 80% won't use even 1/2 of that (pareto's principle). The other points though I think are valid. I don’t quite agree with your logic. The cost of bandwidth hasn’t gone down, it’s about the same, though large hosts close to backbones can get it relatively cheap, it’s still not much cheaper than it was. The fact is that most people don’t use the space nor the bandwidth that they are offered. If everyone was to, they would soon be out of business. Instead, they offer you that much knowing that about 20% will take them up on it, and the rest of the 80% won’t use even 1/2 of that (pareto’s principle). The other points though I think are valid.

]]> By: dnorman http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/10/03/dreamhost-ups-account-limits/#comment-82455 dnorman Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 16771294#comment-82455 Good point, Sami. They're likely using it to oversell servers, hoping if they come close to capacity that there will be time to add more iron before it caps out. Still, pretty cool. Good point, Sami. They’re likely using it to oversell servers, hoping if they come close to capacity that there will be time to add more iron before it caps out.

Still, pretty cool.

]]> By: dnorman http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/10/03/dreamhost-ups-account-limits/#comment-82459 dnorman Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 16771294#comment-82459 ah, well there ya go. no java apps on dreamhost's servers. thanks for finding that, sami! ah, well there ya go. no java apps on dreamhost’s servers. thanks for finding that, sami!

]]> By: Bill Kempthorne http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/10/03/dreamhost-ups-account-limits/#comment-82460 Bill Kempthorne Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 16771294#comment-82460 Your points on the 80/20 rule are very valid.The bigger issue of internet charges have been dropping as well. In the commerical grade network connectivity, internet access has gotten cheaper - especially where metro ethernet based services are availble. Once you pay for a fibre pull the local loop costs for 10, 100 and 1000 Mbps aren't too scary. The real differental today is the bitrate charges for 'bursty' traffic. Before we were paying by the bit, now it is more a matter of peak data rates really being the cost. So if you want to sit there an suck 200Mbps all day your golden, if your pushing video that peaks at a few Gbps then drops to nothing the rest of the time - yikes. Same number of bits, two very different bills. Your points on the 80/20 rule are very valid.The bigger issue of internet charges have been dropping as well.

In the commerical grade network connectivity, internet access has gotten cheaper – especially where metro ethernet based services are availble. Once you pay for a fibre pull the local loop costs for 10, 100 and 1000 Mbps aren’t too scary. The real differental today is the bitrate charges for ‘bursty’ traffic. Before we were paying by the bit, now it is more a matter of peak data rates really being the cost. So if you want to sit there an suck 200Mbps all day your golden, if your pushing video that peaks at a few Gbps then drops to nothing the rest of the time – yikes. Same number of bits, two very different bills.

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