Comments on: DOPA is like locking your kids in the basement http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/07/28/dopa-is-like-locking-your-kids-in-the-basement/ apparently much happier in person Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:45:12 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Fergus Mayhew http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/07/28/dopa-is-like-locking-your-kids-in-the-basement/#comment-184504 Fergus Mayhew Wed, 09 Jul 2008 07:46:41 +0000 1973049723#comment-184504 The truth is that the only real online security for your kids is to have the home computer in a public space -- your living room, den, etc. -- where it's possible to have a conversation about safe online behavior if something comes up on screen that's inappropriate. Allowing your kids to squirrel themselves away with a computer behind a closed bedroom door is just not responsible. The truth is that the only real online security for your kids is to have the home computer in a public space — your living room, den, etc. — where it’s possible to have a conversation about safe online behavior if something comes up on screen that’s inappropriate.

Allowing your kids to squirrel themselves away with a computer behind a closed bedroom door is just not responsible.

]]> By: dnorman http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/07/28/dopa-is-like-locking-your-kids-in-the-basement/#comment-82064 dnorman Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 1973049723#comment-82064 well... considering the legislation is called "Deleting Online Predators Act" - I think it's safe to say that's its top priority... All the latest on DOPA is kindly gathered into one place at <a href="http://www.andycarvin.com/dopa.html">DOPA Watch</a>. well… considering the legislation is called “Deleting Online Predators Act” – I think it’s safe to say that’s its top priority…

All the latest on DOPA is kindly gathered into one place at DOPA Watch.

]]> By: Paul R. Pival http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/07/28/dopa-is-like-locking-your-kids-in-the-basement/#comment-82145 Paul R. Pival Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 1973049723#comment-82145 Hey D'Arcy, agree with you on all accounts, of course, but do be aware that kids aren't banned from accessing any of these sites; they're banned from accessing them from any school or public library that accepts federal e-rate funding.  Which most do.  Doesn't make it any easier to swallow this sh*t, but there you go.<br /> Hey D'Arcy, agree with you on all accounts, of course, but do be aware that kids aren't banned from accessing any of these sites; they're banned from accessing them from any school or public library that accepts federal e-rate funding.  Which most do.  Doesn't make it any easier to swallow this sh*t, but there you go.

]]> By: dnorman http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/07/28/dopa-is-like-locking-your-kids-in-the-basement/#comment-82146 dnorman Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 1973049723#comment-82146 Right - so go ahead and participate, but you'd better not be caught doing it as part of any approved activity... Nice subtlety, making online participation a subversive activity... Right – so go ahead and participate, but you’d better not be caught doing it as part of any approved activity… Nice subtlety, making online participation a subversive activity…

]]> By: Sami Khan http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/07/28/dopa-is-like-locking-your-kids-in-the-basement/#comment-82147 Sami Khan Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 1973049723#comment-82147 I think that they are more worried about subversive sexual behavior online more so than online predators. It is the Republicans after all... I would write a diatribe, but I'll spare you the space. I think that they are more worried about subversive sexual behavior online more so than online predators. It is the Republicans after all… I would write a diatribe, but I’ll spare you the space.

]]> By: MyGurlStuff.com http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/07/28/dopa-is-like-locking-your-kids-in-the-basement/#comment-82166 MyGurlStuff.com Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 1973049723#comment-82166 <p>This law makes me sick to my stomach. The reason why the predators are getting to the children is due to the parents negligence!!! I have a MySpace account, so does my daughter, and I created one for our Website (MyGurlStuff.com). The kids that don't have any supervision post their personal information. (ie age, city, school, friends, etc)</p><p>I do not allow my daughter to post anything that will lure a predator to her. When I post pictures of her and her friends or when she posts, we make sure most of the distinguishing information in the background is blurred out. If the photos are taken at school, then I make sure the mascot or school colors are not predominate in the photo.</p><p>We just created a "friends network" just for teen and tween girls. I police that thing everyday. If the girls post anything too personal, it will get deleted. <a href="http://www.mygurlstuff.com/smf/index.php">http://www.mygurlstuff.com/smf/index.php</a> </p><p>DOPA is completely ridiculous! Parents need to get more involved and not let the government control what is going on in our houses. The social sites like MySpace and MyGurlStuff allow the teens and tweens to display their creativity. I've seen some really cool things while cruising through the web. To stiffle the creativity of our youth will be a grave mistake.</p> This law makes me sick to my stomach. The reason why the predators are getting to the children is due to the parents negligence!!! I have a MySpace account, so does my daughter, and I created one for our Website (MyGurlStuff.com). The kids that don't have any supervision post their personal information. (ie age, city, school, friends, etc)

I do not allow my daughter to post anything that will lure a predator to her. When I post pictures of her and her friends or when she posts, we make sure most of the distinguishing information in the background is blurred out. If the photos are taken at school, then I make sure the mascot or school colors are not predominate in the photo.

We just created a "friends network" just for teen and tween girls. I police that thing everyday. If the girls post anything too personal, it will get deleted. http://www.mygurlstuff.com/smf/index.php 

DOPA is completely ridiculous! Parents need to get more involved and not let the government control what is going on in our houses. The social sites like MySpace and MyGurlStuff allow the teens and tweens to display their creativity. I've seen some really cool things while cruising through the web. To stiffle the creativity of our youth will be a grave mistake.

]]> By: dnorman http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/07/28/dopa-is-like-locking-your-kids-in-the-basement/#comment-82175 dnorman Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 1973049723#comment-82175 They're trying to prevent predators from luring kids/teens into physical harm. That's an education issue, not a lock-up-the-kids issue. If kids know not to meet anyone online without some pretty strict guidelines, they'll be reasonably safe. Nobody can be perfectly safe, at least not while actively living and participating in a community. They’re trying to prevent predators from luring kids/teens into physical harm. That’s an education issue, not a lock-up-the-kids issue. If kids know not to meet anyone online without some pretty strict guidelines, they’ll be reasonably safe. Nobody can be perfectly safe, at least not while actively living and participating in a community.

]]> By: Sami Khan http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/07/28/dopa-is-like-locking-your-kids-in-the-basement/#comment-82177 Sami Khan Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 1973049723#comment-82177 I agree with your point, I think there should be a DARE-like program to educate kids about this stuff... But I don't think that the purpose of such legislation is simple as just protecting the kids from online predators. I think it has a more encompassing function, but perhaps I am seeing something where there is nothing there...? I agree with your point, I think there should be a DARE-like program to educate kids about this stuff… But I don’t think that the purpose of such legislation is simple as just protecting the kids from online predators. I think it has a more encompassing function, but perhaps I am seeing something where there is nothing there…?

]]> By: Sami Khan http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/07/28/dopa-is-like-locking-your-kids-in-the-basement/#comment-82178 Sami Khan Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 1973049723#comment-82178 I mean by that, to clarify, that teenagers will act in certain ways that are considered “improper” and that will attract sexual predators to them, that in addition to all the other stuff that the media reports. But essentially, I think the idea behind all of this is that you have all this teen angst which spills out to online sites like MySpace, check out some of the pictures the members post, and then that type of behavior leads to repercussions, which may be physically harming or in their minds socially harming to society. I think they see social interaction online as problematic in a general sense rather than a specific sense. A lot of right wingers wouldn’t mind putting their teenage daughters in Burkas, if they had their way ;-) They are attempting to use the protect the kids issue to push a larger, moral agenda. They are well-meaning, but we are left arguing against a strong point than the actual issue at hand – “the moral purity of the internet and our children’s minds”. There you have my diatribe, or at least a part of it. I mean by that, to clarify, that teenagers will act in certain ways that are considered “improper” and that will attract sexual predators to them, that in addition to all the other stuff that the media reports. But essentially, I think the idea behind all of this is that you have all this teen angst which spills out to online sites like MySpace, check out some of the pictures the members post, and then that type of behavior leads to repercussions, which may be physically harming or in their minds socially harming to society. I think they see social interaction online as problematic in a general sense rather than a specific sense. A lot of right wingers wouldn’t mind putting their teenage daughters in Burkas, if they had their way ;-) They are attempting to use the protect the kids issue to push a larger, moral agenda. They are well-meaning, but we are left arguing against a strong point than the actual issue at hand – “the moral purity of the internet and our children’s minds”. There you have my diatribe, or at least a part of it.

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