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	<description>apparently much happier in person</description>
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		<title>By: Ripose</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/05/24/wiki-vs-drupal-book/#comment-194322</link>
		<dc:creator>Ripose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 04:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How did you manage to set up a Drupal Book using WordPress 2.7?</description>
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		<title>By: dnorman</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/05/24/wiki-vs-drupal-book/#comment-193790</link>
		<dc:creator>dnorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if your target is a printed book, Drupal is not the right tool. I&#039;d guess Quark is better suited for page layout and prepress management. Or InDesign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if your target is a printed book, Drupal is not the right tool. I&#8217;d guess Quark is better suited for page layout and prepress management. Or InDesign.</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/05/24/wiki-vs-drupal-book/#comment-193789</link>
		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone please tell me if Drupal could possibly be used as a publishing platform for producing textbooks?  I was recently told that I should not be using QuarkXPress and should switch to Drupal.  The thing is, It seems to be only a web-development tool similar to Joomla.  Can Drupal be used to build and export high-resolution print-ready PDF files?  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone please tell me if Drupal could possibly be used as a publishing platform for producing textbooks?  I was recently told that I should not be using QuarkXPress and should switch to Drupal.  The thing is, It seems to be only a web-development tool similar to Joomla.  Can Drupal be used to build and export high-resolution print-ready PDF files?  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: dnorman</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/05/24/wiki-vs-drupal-book/#comment-182948</link>
		<dc:creator>dnorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 02:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Eric
- Yes, Drupal can be set up to allow anyone to edit anything, much like a wiki. (check Access Control, and configure to be as secure or as open as you wish - you might want to enable Revisions for the content type(s) so you can walk back any changes though...)

- Drupal doesn&#039;t offer as clean of a diff function as mediawiki does. There&#039;s probably a module to make it display better though, but I personally find it much easier to follow the diffs in mediawiki.

- yes, I think Mediawiki&#039;s categories, etc... can be used. But n00bs won&#039;t grok them, so you&#039;ll need to provide some support. Novices get how to use dropdown menus for taxonomies. They don&#039;t get how to add [Category:whatever] to categorize stuff (even though it seems simple to geeks).

- for inter-page navigation, I&#039;m meaning the table of contents generated to list all pages in a book. Similar to the navigation block that MediaWiki generates for a single page, but spanning multiple pages and reflecting the hierarchical structure of the pages, rather than the semantic headings within a page. Makes it easier for people to navigate a set of pages if that level of UI is taken care of automagically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Eric<br />
- Yes, Drupal can be set up to allow anyone to edit anything, much like a wiki. (check Access Control, and configure to be as secure or as open as you wish &#8211; you might want to enable Revisions for the content type(s) so you can walk back any changes though&#8230;)</p>
<p>- Drupal doesn&#8217;t offer as clean of a diff function as mediawiki does. There&#8217;s probably a module to make it display better though, but I personally find it much easier to follow the diffs in mediawiki.</p>
<p>- yes, I think Mediawiki&#8217;s categories, etc&#8230; can be used. But n00bs won&#8217;t grok them, so you&#8217;ll need to provide some support. Novices get how to use dropdown menus for taxonomies. They don&#8217;t get how to add [Category:whatever] to categorize stuff (even though it seems simple to geeks).</p>
<p>- for inter-page navigation, I&#8217;m meaning the table of contents generated to list all pages in a book. Similar to the navigation block that MediaWiki generates for a single page, but spanning multiple pages and reflecting the hierarchical structure of the pages, rather than the semantic headings within a page. Makes it easier for people to navigate a set of pages if that level of UI is taken care of automagically.</p>
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		<title>By: EricL</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/05/24/wiki-vs-drupal-book/#comment-182913</link>
		<dc:creator>EricL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello everybody. I have the same interrogation than  dnorman. I&#039;lm working on a project of collaborative Internet site and my first idea was to take mediawiki. But I see some people saying using Drupal for knowledge management even in great compagny. So I a afraid. Is the choice of Mediwiki a big mistake ?

Mediawiki enjoy me on thoses points :
-scalability (I think to th big wikipedia)
-interwiki link
-langlinks
-extension
-semantic mediawiki
- power of models concept
-reuse of models from wikipedia
-inclusion capabilities from wikipedia
- simily script language with extension like ParserFunctions and StringFunctions

What of those thinks are&#039;nt in Drupal

Specially to D&#039;Arcy
- do you know where It should be possible to see a Drupal site with open editing user access which let all or a set of users edit the site or part of th site ?
-In which way don&#039;t you  find that versioning/revisions is harder to follow in Drupal than in a MediaWiki ? 


Specially to Chris L
-Is it really more difficult to obtain a nice print of an article in  Drupal than in Mediawiki. I thing tha it&#039;s a great functionnality of Mediawiki to be able to give a print without the menu and other stuff which have no utility on a piece of paper. Do you confirm ?
- In wich way, Drupal seems to have eclipsed WP in most of the ways relevant to you ?
Norman :
-  don&#039;t you thing that is possible to use model&#039;s mediawiki concept, catagorisation and DPL extension to structure  individual pages into a navigation hierarchy ?
- What do you means by generates inter/page navigation automatically ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello everybody. I have the same interrogation than  dnorman. I&#8217;lm working on a project of collaborative Internet site and my first idea was to take mediawiki. But I see some people saying using Drupal for knowledge management even in great compagny. So I a afraid. Is the choice of Mediwiki a big mistake ?</p>
<p>Mediawiki enjoy me on thoses points :<br />
-scalability (I think to th big wikipedia)<br />
-interwiki link<br />
-langlinks<br />
-extension<br />
-semantic mediawiki<br />
- power of models concept<br />
-reuse of models from wikipedia<br />
-inclusion capabilities from wikipedia<br />
- simily script language with extension like ParserFunctions and StringFunctions</p>
<p>What of those thinks are&#8217;nt in Drupal</p>
<p>Specially to D&#8217;Arcy<br />
- do you know where It should be possible to see a Drupal site with open editing user access which let all or a set of users edit the site or part of th site ?<br />
-In which way don&#8217;t you  find that versioning/revisions is harder to follow in Drupal than in a MediaWiki ? </p>
<p>Specially to Chris L<br />
-Is it really more difficult to obtain a nice print of an article in  Drupal than in Mediawiki. I thing tha it&#8217;s a great functionnality of Mediawiki to be able to give a print without the menu and other stuff which have no utility on a piece of paper. Do you confirm ?<br />
- In wich way, Drupal seems to have eclipsed WP in most of the ways relevant to you ?<br />
Norman :<br />
-  don&#8217;t you thing that is possible to use model&#8217;s mediawiki concept, catagorisation and DPL extension to structure  individual pages into a navigation hierarchy ?<br />
- What do you means by generates inter/page navigation automatically ?</p>
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		<title>By: seoecom</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/05/24/wiki-vs-drupal-book/#comment-119843</link>
		<dc:creator>seoecom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 02:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am waiting for the wiki module for Drupal to work for version 5. Any idea when that will be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am waiting for the wiki module for Drupal to work for version 5. Any idea when that will be?</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Bannister</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/05/24/wiki-vs-drupal-book/#comment-113670</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Bannister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 00:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also keep in mind if you want to use drupal more like a wiki you can use the Freelinking module.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also keep in mind if you want to use drupal more like a wiki you can use the Freelinking module.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/05/24/wiki-vs-drupal-book/#comment-81886</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D&#039;Arcy, have you thought of editing your Drupal user access to let all or a set of users edit your book. It would give it a bit more of a Wiki type flavour. I have played with this a bit, but I did find that versioning/revisions were harder to follow in Drupal than in Wiki software such as MediaWiki.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D&#39;Arcy, have you thought of editing your Drupal user access to let all or a set of users edit your book. It would give it a bit more of a Wiki type flavour. I have played with this a bit, but I did find that versioning/revisions were harder to follow in Drupal than in Wiki software such as MediaWiki.</p>
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		<title>By: dnorman</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/05/24/wiki-vs-drupal-book/#comment-81887</link>
		<dc:creator>dnorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gerry - I thought of that, but I&#039;m unsure if I want people having to create accounts on my blog at all. Once I finish the member-level node access module, maybe I&#039;ll try making some pages editable by Anonymous to see what happens...

But, yeah - the shared editing by a group is one of the cool features of Drupal. Something I&#039;ll have to keep in mind as an option here.

Combined with the ability to restrict which kinds of content can be created/edited by specific &quot;roles&quot; of users, it could be a really cool way to let others play in the sandbox...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerry &#8211; I thought of that, but I&#8217;m unsure if I want people having to create accounts on my blog at all. Once I finish the member-level node access module, maybe I&#8217;ll try making some pages editable by Anonymous to see what happens&#8230;</p>
<p>But, yeah &#8211; the shared editing by a group is one of the cool features of Drupal. Something I&#8217;ll have to keep in mind as an option here.</p>
<p>Combined with the ability to restrict which kinds of content can be created/edited by specific &#8220;roles&#8221; of users, it could be a really cool way to let others play in the sandbox&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: davidicus</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/05/24/wiki-vs-drupal-book/#comment-81888</link>
		<dc:creator>davidicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Top 10 Signs You Might Be “Addicted To Blog”  

10. You check your blog stats a LOT. You occasionally
get up in the middle of the night and sneak a peak. 

9. Your significant other suspects you are having an
affair with your blog. Even when you’re alone with
your special person, you do find yourself thinking
what your blog might be doing right then… 

8. You “mental blog” while driving or on the
train, and sometimes even when you are alone in the
shower. 

7. You filter everything through your post-writing.
You can’t watch a movie, see a play, read an
article, or share a sweet moment with your child
without thinking of whether it’s blog-worthy. 

6. You suffer from “blog envy” when another
blogger posts something juicy before you do. You
suffer “comment envy” when said post gets
40-something comments – the jerk! 

5. You “binge blog” 3 or 4 posts at once—only
to feel guilty and empty afterward. 

4. You ditched all your real friends for blog
friends, because, well, “they understand.” You
bypass [4]Bowling Alone at the bookstore (who really
cares?) while you reach for [5]Naked Conversations. 

3. You think, “I can stop at any time.” 

2. Your lunch hour has become your “blog hour.”
You keep a few posts tucked in your desk in case you
need them during the day. 

1. After 5 minutes of meeting someone really
interesting you ask, “So - do you blog?” 

This post was co-written with Ann Handley

Source:
http://darmano.typepad.com/logic_emotion/2006/05/addicted_to_blo.html

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#11.  you install software with a &quot;Book&quot; content type in the interest of writing even longer articles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Top 10 Signs You Might Be “Addicted To Blog”  </p>
<p>10. You check your blog stats a LOT. You occasionally<br />
get up in the middle of the night and sneak a peak. </p>
<p>9. Your significant other suspects you are having an<br />
affair with your blog. Even when you’re alone with<br />
your special person, you do find yourself thinking<br />
what your blog might be doing right then… </p>
<p>8. You “mental blog” while driving or on the<br />
train, and sometimes even when you are alone in the<br />
shower. </p>
<p>7. You filter everything through your post-writing.<br />
You can’t watch a movie, see a play, read an<br />
article, or share a sweet moment with your child<br />
without thinking of whether it’s blog-worthy. </p>
<p>6. You suffer from “blog envy” when another<br />
blogger posts something juicy before you do. You<br />
suffer “comment envy” when said post gets<br />
40-something comments – the jerk! </p>
<p>5. You “binge blog” 3 or 4 posts at once—only<br />
to feel guilty and empty afterward. </p>
<p>4. You ditched all your real friends for blog<br />
friends, because, well, “they understand.” You<br />
bypass [4]Bowling Alone at the bookstore (who really<br />
cares?) while you reach for [5]Naked Conversations. </p>
<p>3. You think, “I can stop at any time.” </p>
<p>2. Your lunch hour has become your “blog hour.”<br />
You keep a few posts tucked in your desk in case you<br />
need them during the day. </p>
<p>1. After 5 minutes of meeting someone really<br />
interesting you ask, “So &#8211; do you blog?” </p>
<p>This post was co-written with Ann Handley</p>
<p>Source:<br />
<a href="http://darmano.typepad.com/logic_emotion/2006/05/addicted_to_blo.html" rel="nofollow">http://darmano.typepad.com/logic_emotion/2006/05/addicted_to_blo.html</a></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-8<&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>#11.  you install software with a &#8220;Book&#8221; content type in the interest of writing even longer articles.</p>
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