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	<description>ce n'est pas la connaissance.</description>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/05/15/drupal-content-creation-kit/#comment-81852</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D'Arcy,

I've heard a lot about Drupal, but never worked with it. Is there any kind of a "Dummies" type guide for it, or is Drupal not recommended for non-tech geeks (I'm only partly geek)?

Heather</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D&#8217;Arcy,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard a lot about Drupal, but never worked with it. Is there any kind of a &#8220;Dummies&#8221; type guide for it, or is Drupal not recommended for non-tech geeks (I&#8217;m only partly geek)?</p>
<p>Heather</p>
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		<title>By: D'Arcy</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/05/15/drupal-content-creation-kit/#comment-81853</link>
		<dc:creator>D'Arcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heather, if you have a couple of hours to play around, it's not that bad to just grab a copy of Drupal and poke around with it. If you don't have MySQL installed, it might take a bit longer, but it's mostly just following recipes.

There's a decent howto available, which should work fine even though it was written for 4.6 rather than 4.7

http://maczealots.com/tutorials/drupal/

As for books, I have the "Building online communities with Drupal, phpBB, and WordPress" book. Not bad. There is apparently a new book - just released - on Drupal 4.7. Don't have the title handy, but a trip to Amazon should turn it up.

I really think Drupal should be fine for non-geeks. It might take some time to get familiar, but now that modules are self installing (just drop the files into place, and they take care of initializing their database stuff for you) it's much easier to use.

I'm seriously toying with the idea of migrating this blog to Drupal, too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heather, if you have a couple of hours to play around, it&#8217;s not that bad to just grab a copy of Drupal and poke around with it. If you don&#8217;t have MySQL installed, it might take a bit longer, but it&#8217;s mostly just following recipes.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a decent howto available, which should work fine even though it was written for 4.6 rather than 4.7</p>
<p><a href="http://maczealots.com/tutorials/drupal/" rel="nofollow">http://maczealots.com/tutorials/drupal/</a></p>
<p>As for books, I have the &#8220;Building online communities with Drupal, phpBB, and WordPress&#8221; book. Not bad. There is apparently a new book - just released - on Drupal 4.7. Don&#8217;t have the title handy, but a trip to Amazon should turn it up.</p>
<p>I really think Drupal should be fine for non-geeks. It might take some time to get familiar, but now that modules are self installing (just drop the files into place, and they take care of initializing their database stuff for you) it&#8217;s much easier to use.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m seriously toying with the idea of migrating this blog to Drupal, too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Julian Egelstaff</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/05/15/drupal-content-creation-kit/#comment-81905</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian Egelstaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you for the very informative posting.  I have been researching form creation in Drupal, and a lot of ideas that had not been coming together clearly, suddenly made sense after reading this.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;For the past couple years, we have been building something that I think is similar to CCK+Views, but for the XOOPS platform.  From time to time, the idea of deploying a Drupal site has come up.  I am glad to now know where to start if we ever go down that road.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;FYI, for more information about our XOOPS solution, look here:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;http://www.freeformsolutions.ca/formulize&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;--Julian &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the very informative posting.  I have been researching form creation in Drupal, and a lot of ideas that had not been coming together clearly, suddenly made sense after reading this.</p>
<p>For the past couple years, we have been building something that I think is similar to CCK+Views, but for the XOOPS platform.  From time to time, the idea of deploying a Drupal site has come up.  I am glad to now know where to start if we ever go down that road.</p>
<p>FYI, for more information about our XOOPS solution, look here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.freeformsolutions.ca/formulize" rel="nofollow">http://www.freeformsolutions.ca/formulize</a></p>
<p>&#8211;Julian  </p>
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		<title>By: Bill Worthington</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/05/15/drupal-content-creation-kit/#comment-82033</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Worthington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Having sold the merits of drupal to colleagues I now have the task of porting www.i10.org.uk to it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We have several content types. What is concerning me is not creating the content type but importing all our existing records into them. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Any pointers?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;many thanks, Bill &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having sold the merits of drupal to colleagues I now have the task of porting <a href="http://www.i10.org.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.i10.org.uk</a> to it.</p>
<p>We have several content types. What is concerning me is not creating the content type but importing all our existing records into them. </p>
<p>Any pointers?</p>
<p>many thanks, Bill </p>
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		<title>By: Max Bell</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/05/15/drupal-content-creation-kit/#comment-82039</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bill --&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Couldn&#39;t figure out what i10 was running, but you should probably check here, first: http://drupal.org/node/271 &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill &#8211;</p>
<p>Couldn&#39;t figure out what i10 was running, but you should probably check here, first: <a href="http://drupal.org/node/271" rel="nofollow">http://drupal.org/node/271</a> </p>
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		<title>By: Bill Worthington</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/05/15/drupal-content-creation-kit/#comment-82040</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Worthington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ok thanks Max, will do.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;i10 currently runs on a proprietary CMS. We are just looking at options for the future. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok thanks Max, will do.</p>
<p>i10 currently runs on a proprietary CMS. We are just looking at options for the future. </p>
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		<title>By: dnorman</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/05/15/drupal-content-creation-kit/#comment-82041</link>
		<dc:creator>dnorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Failing that, there's always the "Import HTML" module. It doesn't appear to run on Drupal 4.7 (yet?) so you'll have to install a copy of 4.6 to migrate content, then upgrade. It requires valid XHTML, and you just tell it the id of the element containing "content" on the pages. It does its best to create nodes for a site. I've done a very small scale test with it, and I'm not sure it's THAT much better/quicker than just copying and pasting...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Failing that, there&#8217;s always the &#8220;Import HTML&#8221; module. It doesn&#8217;t appear to run on Drupal 4.7 (yet?) so you&#8217;ll have to install a copy of 4.6 to migrate content, then upgrade. It requires valid XHTML, and you just tell it the id of the element containing &#8220;content&#8221; on the pages. It does its best to create nodes for a site. I&#8217;ve done a very small scale test with it, and I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s THAT much better/quicker than just copying and pasting&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dnorman</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/05/15/drupal-content-creation-kit/#comment-82756</link>
		<dc:creator>dnorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Views module. You can use Drupal's native "Promote to front" flag, and use it to define a block or page of items of a particular content type matching whatever criteria you provide.

The &lt;a href="http://tlc.ucalgary.ca/projects"&gt;Projects&lt;/a&gt; page of the TLC website uses a view that does exactly that (along the right side, the list of images linking to specific featured projects)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Views module. You can use Drupal&#8217;s native &#8220;Promote to front&#8221; flag, and use it to define a block or page of items of a particular content type matching whatever criteria you provide.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://tlc.ucalgary.ca/projects">Projects</a> page of the TLC website uses a view that does exactly that (along the right side, the list of images linking to specific featured projects)</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Young</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/05/15/drupal-content-creation-kit/#comment-82757</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I concur! I installed last night and started tweaking CCK. It is great.

One followup, we'd like to get a list of news articles (our CCK content type) and be able to select which ones should be promoted to the homepage, like &lt;a href="http://www.pibetasite.com/news.html#administer"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;. Do you have any words of wisdom? Is this a task for the views module and, if so, it is possible to create a "Promote to Homepage" checkbox within the content type? It really needs to be idiot-proof, you see...

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concur! I installed last night and started tweaking CCK. It is great.</p>
<p>One followup, we&#8217;d like to get a list of news articles (our CCK content type) and be able to select which ones should be promoted to the homepage, like <a href="http://www.pibetasite.com/news.html#administer">this</a>. Do you have any words of wisdom? Is this a task for the views module and, if so, it is possible to create a &#8220;Promote to Homepage&#8221; checkbox within the content type? It really needs to be idiot-proof, you see&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: dnorman</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/05/15/drupal-content-creation-kit/#comment-82759</link>
		<dc:creator>dnorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CCK worked out great. Tie it into contemplate.module, and it just doesn't get any easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CCK worked out great. Tie it into contemplate.module, and it just doesn&#8217;t get any easier.</p>
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