Comments on: BCEdOnline UnKeynote Debriefing http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/04/20/bcedonline-unkeynote-debriefing/ just a lowly edtech geek, mumble mumble university of calgary Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:41:04 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Open Space Meetings at D’Arcy Norman Dot Net http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/04/20/bcedonline-unkeynote-debriefing/#comment-81726 Open Space Meetings at D’Arcy Norman Dot Net Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 330593518#comment-81726 [...] One of the great comments on my BCEdOnline2006 Unkeynote Debriefing included a link to a wiki page by Chris Corrigan on Open Space Technology - a set of ideas, practices and guidelines for conducting “open space” meetings. Very cool stuff, and it resonated quite well with what we got to do as part of Northern Voice 2006 - specifically the Social Software Salon and the Edublogger Hootenanny. I finally had a chance to go through the linked wiki page, and it’s chock full of goodness. I don’t think it has to go as far down the kumbaya spectrum as Chris describes - even just the arrangement of the chairs sends a powerful message and sets expectations. When they work, open space meetings are incredible. Dynamic, interesting, engaging. [...] [...] One of the great comments on my BCEdOnline2006 Unkeynote Debriefing included a link to a wiki page by Chris Corrigan on Open Space Technology – a set of ideas, practices and guidelines for conducting “open space” meetings. Very cool stuff, and it resonated quite well with what we got to do as part of Northern Voice 2006 – specifically the Social Software Salon and the Edublogger Hootenanny. I finally had a chance to go through the linked wiki page, and it’s chock full of goodness. I don’t think it has to go as far down the kumbaya spectrum as Chris describes – even just the arrangement of the chairs sends a powerful message and sets expectations. When they work, open space meetings are incredible. Dynamic, interesting, engaging. [...]

]]> By: D'Arcy http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/04/20/bcedonline-unkeynote-debriefing/#comment-81727 D'Arcy Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 330593518#comment-81727 Salvor, there has to be some level of trust and professionalism/responsibility for this to work. Something that should be expected in the classroom, and absolutely should be expected at a professional conference. Mena got slammed by some immature rantfactories, which was wrong. In our context, though, that would be a teachable moment, and the session would stop to address that... Salvor, there has to be some level of trust and professionalism/responsibility for this to work. Something that should be expected in the classroom, and absolutely should be expected at a professional conference. Mena got slammed by some immature rantfactories, which was wrong. In our context, though, that would be a teachable moment, and the session would stop to address that…

]]> By: Salvor http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/04/20/bcedonline-unkeynote-debriefing/#comment-81728 Salvor Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 330593518#comment-81728 I do not think backchannel is always useful. Perhaps it is useful when the audience is mostly educators. But when the backchannel iis mostly arrogant and bored journalists eager to make the grasp attention from the lecturers it can be strange. I attended the Les Blogs 2.0 conference in Paris in December. After the conference the event that got most attention was when one lecturer (Lena Trott) lost patience over one contributer (BigBen). Many bloggers - even those who had not attended the conference blogged about this for days - it was at that time one of the top searches on Technorati. Here are links about two of me blog posts about this: http://elgg.net/salvor/weblog/4756.html http://samkoma.net/videoblog/?p=10 I do not think backchannel is always useful. Perhaps it is useful when the audience is mostly educators. But when the backchannel iis mostly arrogant and bored journalists eager to make the grasp attention from the lecturers it can be strange. I attended the Les Blogs 2.0 conference in Paris in December. After the conference the event that got most attention was when one lecturer (Lena Trott) lost patience over one contributer (BigBen). Many bloggers – even those who had not attended the conference blogged about this for days – it was at that time one of the top searches on Technorati.

Here are links about two of me blog posts about this:
http://elgg.net/salvor/weblog/4756.html
http://samkoma.net/videoblog/?p=10

]]> By: D'Arcy http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/04/20/bcedonline-unkeynote-debriefing/#comment-81729 D'Arcy Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 330593518#comment-81729 Nancy, that's what the session sounded like :-) - actually, I'm guessing it's a bug in the flash MP3 player, having difficulty with the sample rate that Stephen used (or something like that). As Gerry mentioned, downloading the MP3 itself should work fine. I'll look into re-encoding a version of the file so that it plays in the flash player. Nancy, that’s what the session sounded like :-) – actually, I’m guessing it’s a bug in the flash MP3 player, having difficulty with the sample rate that Stephen used (or something like that). As Gerry mentioned, downloading the MP3 itself should work fine. I’ll look into re-encoding a version of the file so that it plays in the flash player.

]]> By: Darren Kuropatwa http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/04/20/bcedonline-unkeynote-debriefing/#comment-81730 Darren Kuropatwa Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 330593518#comment-81730 I thought the whole thing was a very clever idea. The issues Colleen raises though are important ones. As I write this I feel the tension between the truth of what Colleen writes and D'Arcy's reply about wanting to hear the voices of those who are not usually part of this conversation. I'm not really sure how to resolve that. I thought the live chat feature was a great way to include the participation of a larger audience. (Although I found it hard to follow the thread of the conversation there.) Something that would have been of great value to me as a remote participant would have been an audio feed. Maybe something along the lines of what the Worldbridges guys do. Stephen has a knack for saying provocative things (I'm still digesting his "Conversation" podcast.); capitalize on that. Here's the picture in my head: • Unkeynote moderated by folks like D'Arcy, Brian and Stephan. • Regular reference to the topics outlined in the pre-talk wiki but flexible enough to depart from it if that's what folks want to do. • Live chat, posted up on a wall; BIG. • Live audio feed for remote participants. • When things go a little flat have a bag of "provocative" observations to engage (enrage?) the folks who usually just like to listen. Maybe the tension between what Colleen and D'Arcy were saying is to entice (as opposed to conscript(?)) the participation of those that are normally more reserved. One of the things that I most appreciate (and find most instructive) about what you guys do is the transparency with which you do it. Thanks for continuing to model that kind of sharing. I thought the whole thing was a very clever idea. The issues Colleen raises though are important ones. As I write this I feel the tension between the truth of what Colleen writes and D’Arcy’s reply about wanting to hear the voices of those who are not usually part of this conversation. I’m not really sure how to resolve that.

I thought the live chat feature was a great way to include the participation of a larger audience. (Although I found it hard to follow the thread of the conversation there.) Something that would have been of great value to me as a remote participant would have been an audio feed. Maybe something along the lines of what the Worldbridges guys do. Stephen has a knack for saying provocative things (I’m still digesting his “Conversation” podcast.); capitalize on that. Here’s the picture in my head:

• Unkeynote moderated by folks like D’Arcy, Brian and Stephan.
• Regular reference to the topics outlined in the pre-talk wiki but flexible enough to depart from it if that’s what folks want to do.
• Live chat, posted up on a wall; BIG.
• Live audio feed for remote participants.
• When things go a little flat have a bag of “provocative” observations to engage (enrage?) the folks who usually just like to listen.

Maybe the tension between what Colleen and D’Arcy were saying is to entice (as opposed to conscript(?)) the participation of those that are normally more reserved.

One of the things that I most appreciate (and find most instructive) about what you guys do is the transparency with which you do it. Thanks for continuing to model that kind of sharing.

]]> By: Nancy White http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/04/20/bcedonline-unkeynote-debriefing/#comment-81731 Nancy White Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 330593518#comment-81731 I knew you guys were fast! I downloaded the file for listening to later (but I think that little player is pretty sweet, besides being fast!) I knew you guys were fast! I downloaded the file for listening to later (but I think that little player is pretty sweet, besides being fast!)

]]> By: Nick Noakes http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/04/20/bcedonline-unkeynote-debriefing/#comment-81732 Nick Noakes Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 330593518#comment-81732 This is really interesting D'Arcy and thanks for doing this while it is still fresh and raw ... frawt. It sounds very much that you gave everyone a shake up - something education at all levels (K-12, college/uni) needs badly. I'm really glad you all took this risk. It has definitely got me thinking. I wonder how different this would have been with a Northern Voice audience ... or more importantly an audience of students. I suspect the adjustment would have been a lot quicker. Maybe it's time to bring students much more into the audience and not just a handful on the occasional panel. Look forward to hearing more from you and Brian ... am presuming Stephen is staying offline in terms of posting for now. This is really interesting D’Arcy and thanks for doing this while it is still fresh and raw … frawt.

It sounds very much that you gave everyone a shake up – something education at all levels (K-12, college/uni) needs badly. I’m really glad you all took this risk. It has definitely got me thinking. I wonder how different this would have been with a Northern Voice audience … or more importantly an audience of students. I suspect the adjustment would have been a lot quicker. Maybe it’s time to bring students much more into the audience and not just a handful on the occasional panel.

Look forward to hearing more from you and Brian … am presuming Stephen is staying offline in terms of posting for now.

]]> By: XplanaZine http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/04/20/bcedonline-unkeynote-debriefing/#comment-81733 XplanaZine Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 330593518#comment-81733 <strong>Daily Edublogging Update -- April 21, 2006</strong> Here's a summary of ideas and conversations from the edublogging community that have captured our attention in the past 48 hours. The discussion regarding Internet filtering and censorship continues with Doug Johnson posting his ideas about how to add... Daily Edublogging Update — April 21, 2006

Here’s a summary of ideas and conversations from the edublogging community that have captured our attention in the past 48 hours.
The discussion regarding Internet filtering and censorship continues with Doug Johnson posting his ideas about how to add…

]]> By: BC Education Weblog » Blog Archive » BC Ed Onlin http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/04/20/bcedonline-unkeynote-debriefing/#comment-81734 BC Education Weblog » Blog Archive » BC Ed Onlin Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 330593518#comment-81734 [...] The wrap-up session from BC Ed Online was an interesting, uncomfortable, and thought-provoking exercise. If you would like to hear it from the presenters point of view please review the post by Darcy Norman here [...] [...] The wrap-up session from BC Ed Online was an interesting, uncomfortable, and thought-provoking exercise. If you would like to hear it from the presenters point of view please review the post by Darcy Norman here [...]

]]> By: Jeremy http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/04/20/bcedonline-unkeynote-debriefing/#comment-81735 Jeremy Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 330593518#comment-81735 Wow, gutsy of you guys to pull that off. The free-form approach sounds a bit like on-the-fly <a href="http://www.chriscorrigan.com/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Main.WhatIsOpenSpaceTechnology">Open Space</a> facilitation, but without the specific methodology. I can relate to the audience discomfort -- even though one of the main reasons to attend any conference is to meet people, I just cringe and look for exits when a session looks to be turning into group work. If you expect an active workshop, it's fine (and the introverts will just avoid those sessions), but if you're expecting to only listen and think and take some notes, it's disruptive to find that you're suddenly a participant. I wonder if your audience was prepared for the experience... Wow, gutsy of you guys to pull that off. The free-form approach sounds a bit like on-the-fly Open Space facilitation, but without the specific methodology.

I can relate to the audience discomfort — even though one of the main reasons to attend any conference is to meet people, I just cringe and look for exits when a session looks to be turning into group work. If you expect an active workshop, it’s fine (and the introverts will just avoid those sessions), but if you’re expecting to only listen and think and take some notes, it’s disruptive to find that you’re suddenly a participant. I wonder if your audience was prepared for the experience…

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