Comments on: Drupal + Aggregator2 isn’t quite EduGlu http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/02/27/drupal-aggregator2-isnt-quite-eduglu/ apparently much happier in person Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:39:21 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Phil Wilson http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/02/27/drupal-aggregator2-isnt-quite-eduglu/#comment-81485 Phil Wilson Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 498760509#comment-81485 Slightly OT, but I have to object to Boris - del.icio.us does not get categories wrong. It uses RSS 1.0 and uses dc:subject in a perfectly acceptable manner, and which I've also seen used in RSS 0.91, RSS 2.0 and Atom feeds. Slightly OT, but I have to object to Boris – del.icio.us does not get categories wrong. It uses RSS 1.0 and uses dc:subject in a perfectly acceptable manner, and which I’ve also seen used in RSS 0.91, RSS 2.0 and Atom feeds.

]]> By: Jo McFetridge http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/02/27/drupal-aggregator2-isnt-quite-eduglu/#comment-81486 Jo McFetridge Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 498760509#comment-81486 Thanks for this post D'Arcy.. very helpful! I have been dying for this type of functionality in Drupal for awhile now and it's great to be able to read what other education tech geeks are doing with it. Thanks! Thanks for this post D’Arcy.. very helpful! I have been dying for this type of functionality in Drupal for awhile now and it’s great to be able to read what other education tech geeks are doing with it.

Thanks!

]]> By: Jo McFetridge http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/02/27/drupal-aggregator2-isnt-quite-eduglu/#comment-81487 Jo McFetridge Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 498760509#comment-81487 geek being a compliment, that is :P geek being a compliment, that is :P

]]> By: D'Arcy http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/02/27/drupal-aggregator2-isnt-quite-eduglu/#comment-81488 D'Arcy Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 498760509#comment-81488 taken as a complement... It's in the subtitle of the blog, after all... :-) taken as a complement… It’s in the subtitle of the blog, after all… :-)

]]> By: Boris Mann http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/02/27/drupal-aggregator2-isnt-quite-eduglu/#comment-81489 Boris Mann Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 498760509#comment-81489 Agg2 reads categories correctly for feeds that properly use RSS 2.0 categories. Del.icio.us in particular fscks this up pretty badly. You could add some code to Agg2 that dedicated the upstream URL (e.g. http://www.flickr.com/xxx, http://del.icio.us/xxx) and made corrections. What you want next of course is solutions for categorizing/viewing/rating a ton of content...it comes in as native Drupal content, so you use traditional "node" techniques to work with them. One of the voting/rating APIs would be interesting. I would also NOT promote all content, but rather let people rate/promote to show the stuff that is valuable for everyone. Yes, this is like building your own digg -- see the vote_up_down module for some ideas: http://cvs.drupal.org/viewcvs/drupal/contributions/modules/vote_up_down/ And no, it's not quite EduGlu, but it's pretty damn good for out of the box functionality. Some UI work and work on filtering mechanisms and it might be interesting. Agg2 reads categories correctly for feeds that properly use RSS 2.0 categories. Del.icio.us in particular fscks this up pretty badly. You could add some code to Agg2 that dedicated the upstream URL (e.g. http://www.flickr.com/xxx, http://del.icio.us/xxx) and made corrections.

What you want next of course is solutions for categorizing/viewing/rating a ton of content…it comes in as native Drupal content, so you use traditional “node” techniques to work with them. One of the voting/rating APIs would be interesting. I would also NOT promote all content, but rather let people rate/promote to show the stuff that is valuable for everyone. Yes, this is like building your own digg — see the vote_up_down module for some ideas: http://cvs.drupal.org/viewcvs/drupal/contributions/modules/vote_up_down/

And no, it’s not quite EduGlu, but it’s pretty damn good for out of the box functionality. Some UI work and work on filtering mechanisms and it might be interesting.

]]> By: travischristopher http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/02/27/drupal-aggregator2-isnt-quite-eduglu/#comment-81490 travischristopher Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 498760509#comment-81490 Great to hear that you think Drupal could be tweaked for your EduGlu initiative. I would suggest doing development in 4.7. There has been many performance enhancements under the hood since 4.6. As far as enterprise level performance have you checked out the notes from the Enterprise-wide session at the recent DrupalCon? http://drupal.org/node/49717 Many of these issues will undoubtedly be dealt with by 4.8 Great to hear that you think Drupal could be tweaked for your EduGlu initiative. I would suggest doing development in 4.7. There has been many performance enhancements under the hood since 4.6. As far as enterprise level performance have you checked out the notes from the Enterprise-wide session at the recent DrupalCon?
http://drupal.org/node/49717 Many of these issues will undoubtedly be dealt with by 4.8

]]> By: D'Arcy http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/02/27/drupal-aggregator2-isnt-quite-eduglu/#comment-81491 D'Arcy Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 498760509#comment-81491 Boris - I was thinking the same thing. Playing with the Drupal/Agg2 mockup, I said "Damn! That's exactly how that should work!" several times. It's close - just needs some more flexible views on the data. Cool! Travis: I used 4.6 only because that's what the Agg2 plugn was rated for. I'm using 4.7.beta4 on a few projects and am comparitively loving the hell out of it. The caching etc. will really help as well. Boris – I was thinking the same thing. Playing with the Drupal/Agg2 mockup, I said “Damn! That’s exactly how that should work!” several times. It’s close – just needs some more flexible views on the data. Cool!

Travis: I used 4.6 only because that’s what the Agg2 plugn was rated for. I’m using 4.7.beta4 on a few projects and am comparitively loving the hell out of it. The caching etc. will really help as well.

]]> By: travischristopher http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/02/27/drupal-aggregator2-isnt-quite-eduglu/#comment-81492 travischristopher Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 498760509#comment-81492 Have you tried out the views module yet? Great stuff but not really 4.6 friendly... I wonder how close Agg2 is to being ported to 4.7 Have you tried out the views module yet? Great stuff but not really 4.6 friendly… I wonder how close Agg2 is to being ported to 4.7

]]> By: D'Arcy http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/02/27/drupal-aggregator2-isnt-quite-eduglu/#comment-81493 D'Arcy Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 498760509#comment-81493 Haven't tried the Views module (yet) - the project description sounds juicy. I'll try installing Agg2 on 4.7B4 with Views to see what blows up. Thanks for the tip! Haven’t tried the Views module (yet) – the project description sounds juicy. I’ll try installing Agg2 on 4.7B4 with Views to see what blows up. Thanks for the tip!

]]> By: Boris Mann http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/02/27/drupal-aggregator2-isnt-quite-eduglu/#comment-81494 Boris Mann Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 498760509#comment-81494 Agg2 is not ported at all AFAIK. I have a long wish list of items of "doing Agg2 right". We'll see if some funding crawls out of the woodwork somewhere. Oh, and I forgot about the personal aggregator/syndicator/blog reader that Prometheus6 is working on (just on his own site, not on Drupal.org). See http://code.prometheus6.org/node/67 Agg2 is not ported at all AFAIK.

I have a long wish list of items of “doing Agg2 right”. We’ll see if some funding crawls out of the woodwork somewhere.

Oh, and I forgot about the personal aggregator/syndicator/blog reader that Prometheus6 is working on (just on his own site, not on Drupal.org). See http://code.prometheus6.org/node/67

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