Comments on: The Vancouver Education Blogging Sessions http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/02/11/the-vancouver-education-blogging-sessions/ apparently much happier in person Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:03:04 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Abject Learning http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/02/11/the-vancouver-education-blogging-sessions/#comment-81270 Abject Learning Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 1283285216#comment-81270 <strong>Edublogger pre-conference session wrap-up...</strong> ... more than ably done by D'Arcy. I'm manic and exhausted, so I'm grateful he did this. When I go back and try to make sense of this all, I will be consulting D'Arcy's post. And an overview of the Salon from Alan.... Edublogger pre-conference session wrap-up…

… more than ably done by D’Arcy. I’m manic and exhausted, so I’m grateful he did this. When I go back and try to make sense of this all, I will be consulting D’Arcy’s post. And an overview of the Salon from Alan….

]]> By: Darren Kuropatwa http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/02/11/the-vancouver-education-blogging-sessions/#comment-81271 Darren Kuropatwa Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 1283285216#comment-81271 Sounds like a great conversation. I wish I had been there. ;-) Thanks for sharing some of it with the rest of us. I posted my reaction to some of what you wrote <a href="http://adifference.blogspot.com/2006/02/blogging-is-classclassroom-activity.html">here</a>. Cheers! Sounds like a great conversation. I wish I had been there. ;-) Thanks for sharing some of it with the rest of us. I posted my reaction to some of what you wrote here.

Cheers!

]]> By: Blogosopher » Blog Archive » Blogging in educati http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/02/11/the-vancouver-education-blogging-sessions/#comment-81272 Blogosopher » Blog Archive » Blogging in educati Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 1283285216#comment-81272 [...] The Vancouver Education Blogging Sessions at D’Arcy Norman Dot Net [...] [...] The Vancouver Education Blogging Sessions at D’Arcy Norman Dot Net [...]

]]> By: Vicki Davis http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/02/11/the-vancouver-education-blogging-sessions/#comment-81273 Vicki Davis Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 1283285216#comment-81273 It amazes me how we continually try to fit the major cultural shifts of society into the old paradigms. If a paradigm shift has occured, society and education must also shift. To me, this is about a fundamental evolution in the way that we communicate. Collaboration and conversation through the Internet has evolved with the inception of blogs and wikis. Now, how do we use that in classrooms in real, practical ways? This - delete everything at the end of the semester is practical from a "cheating" standpoint but from a reality standpoint, students can save those files on a jump drive just as easily and hand it off. Then, if the files are deleted, the teacher doesn't have "proof." How about using the information from last semester as a starting point and thus collapse the information conversion process and accelerate the speed of learning as students learn from one another. As an educator in a classroom who is actually using these technologies, I think most folks are missing the point altogether. Thank you for a synopsis of your meeting. It amazes me how we continually try to fit the major cultural shifts of society into the old paradigms.

If a paradigm shift has occured, society and education must also shift.

To me, this is about a fundamental evolution in the way that we communicate. Collaboration and conversation through the Internet has evolved with the inception of blogs and wikis. Now, how do we use that in classrooms in real, practical ways?

This – delete everything at the end of the semester is practical from a “cheating” standpoint but from a reality standpoint, students can save those files on a jump drive just as easily and hand it off. Then, if the files are deleted, the teacher doesn’t have “proof.”

How about using the information from last semester as a starting point and thus collapse the information conversion process and accelerate the speed of learning as students learn from one another.

As an educator in a classroom who is actually using these technologies, I think most folks are missing the point altogether.

Thank you for a synopsis of your meeting.

]]> By: Educational Technology and Life » Blog Archive » http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/02/11/the-vancouver-education-blogging-sessions/#comment-81274 Educational Technology and Life » Blog Archive » Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 1283285216#comment-81274 [...] The Vancouver Education Blogging Sessions (Via D’Arcy Norman Dot Net.) D’Arcy shares some reflections on what he calls “some extremely interesting and engaging discussions about the nature of ‘blogging’ in education.” His thoughts are well organized with bold titles, and include this important gem: “Blogging is not a classroom/class activity.” I’m not sure I entirely agree, in fact I’m sure I don’t (especially in a 1:1 environment, or a lab, or with a pod of computers students can visit throughout the day or class period), but this sentiment might help teachers new to blogging understand that it doesn’t all have to happen in their classroom, an important aspect of the anywhere anytime learning blogging can facilitate - and an important aspect of the “porous classroom” of the 21st century. [...] [...] The Vancouver Education Blogging Sessions (Via D’Arcy Norman Dot Net.) D’Arcy shares some reflections on what he calls “some extremely interesting and engaging discussions about the nature of ‘blogging’ in education.” His thoughts are well organized with bold titles, and include this important gem: “Blogging is not a classroom/class activity.” I’m not sure I entirely agree, in fact I’m sure I don’t (especially in a 1:1 environment, or a lab, or with a pod of computers students can visit throughout the day or class period), but this sentiment might help teachers new to blogging understand that it doesn’t all have to happen in their classroom, an important aspect of the anywhere anytime learning blogging can facilitate – and an important aspect of the “porous classroom” of the 21st century. [...]

]]> By: Dean Shareski http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/02/11/the-vancouver-education-blogging-sessions/#comment-81275 Dean Shareski Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 1283285216#comment-81275 I'm with you on the blog not being a classroom activity and should occur outside of the classroom but is that more of a transition or do we begin that way up front? I'm thinking about the use of blogs in the elementary level where not only are the safety issues a big concern but simply taking the time to get comfortable with the medium. I'd love to see the extension beyond the school day/year but what I envision is students getting exposure in and out of school and just like their personal space at home, it may change several times throughout adolescense and in their teen years. They'll start many weblogs until they find one that has staying power in terms of content. It would be neat to see a 6th grader maintain a weblog for 20 years and observe the changes but at the same time I wonder if it's realistic. So if you have a solution, I'd love to hear it but I'm certainly with you in principle. I’m with you on the blog not being a classroom activity and should occur outside of the classroom but is that more of a transition or do we begin that way up front?
I’m thinking about the use of blogs in the elementary level where not only are the safety issues a big concern but simply taking the time to get comfortable with the medium.

I’d love to see the extension beyond the school day/year but what I envision is students getting exposure in and out of school and just like their personal space at home, it may change several times throughout adolescense and in their teen years. They’ll start many weblogs until they find one that has staying power in terms of content. It would be neat to see a 6th grader maintain a weblog for 20 years and observe the changes but at the same time I wonder if it’s realistic.

So if you have a solution, I’d love to hear it but I’m certainly with you in principle.

]]> By: Letizia http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/02/11/the-vancouver-education-blogging-sessions/#comment-81276 Letizia Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 1283285216#comment-81276 I attended the Conference. A lot of interesting issues came up. As Davis said now we should think about: "How do we use that in classrooms in real, practical ways?" I've been interviewing (for my research) some teachers and designers at UBC about blogs use in educational environment and what came up is that blogs don't answer every kind of learning and teaching needs. This is the reason why your questions is so important to me. I think, as everybody here, that blogs are a powerful tool but I would like to know how to use this tool in the present reality. To do this I think we should learn more from experiences of people who are using it and figure out what is the real value in offering this tool. For this reason I would like to know more from your experiences as teachers and ... from Ewan experience (I found his post in Darren's blog, it is very "intriguing"!) I hope this conversation will keep on! I attended the Conference. A lot of interesting issues came up.

As Davis said now we should think about: “How do we use that in classrooms in real, practical ways?”

I’ve been interviewing (for my research) some teachers and designers at UBC about blogs use in educational environment and what came up is that blogs don’t answer every kind of learning and teaching needs. This is the reason why your questions is so important to me.

I think, as everybody here, that blogs are a powerful tool but I would like to know how to use this tool in the present reality.
To do this I think we should learn more from experiences of people who are using it and figure out what is the real value in offering this tool. For this reason I would like to know more from your experiences as teachers and … from Ewan experience (I found his post in Darren’s blog, it is very “intriguing”!)

I hope this conversation will keep on!

]]> By: D'Arcy http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/02/11/the-vancouver-education-blogging-sessions/#comment-81277 D'Arcy Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 1283285216#comment-81277 All good points. There are added wrinkles, too... Even if the software is "free" - there will need to be budget allocations for professional development, curriculum development, etc... These could be rather nontrivial things. All good points. There are added wrinkles, too… Even if the software is “free” – there will need to be budget allocations for professional development, curriculum development, etc… These could be rather nontrivial things.

]]> By: Gardner http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/02/11/the-vancouver-education-blogging-sessions/#comment-81278 Gardner Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 1283285216#comment-81278 No, the teacher is not a boss. And the teacher is also a learner. But the teacher is not just another learner, at least in terms of the occasion of the class or course. It's the occasion that helps to create roles as much as the institution does. As much as we rightfully celebrate the learner, the developmental nature of education means that the teacher has a measure of responsibility and authority that no one else in the class will have. And if that's exercised in a humane, inspiring, and generous way, such authority and responsibility represent an authentically student-centered paradigm. No, the teacher is not a boss. And the teacher is also a learner. But the teacher is not just another learner, at least in terms of the occasion of the class or course. It’s the occasion that helps to create roles as much as the institution does. As much as we rightfully celebrate the learner, the developmental nature of education means that the teacher has a measure of responsibility and authority that no one else in the class will have. And if that’s exercised in a humane, inspiring, and generous way, such authority and responsibility represent an authentically student-centered paradigm.

]]> By: D'Arcy http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/02/11/the-vancouver-education-blogging-sessions/#comment-81279 D'Arcy Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 1283285216#comment-81279 Teacher as responsible learner - I like it :-) Teacher as responsible learner – I like it :-)

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