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	<title>Comments on: MacOSX Backup Software?</title>
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	<description>apparently much happier in person</description>
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		<title>By: Geoff Buhl</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2005/04/22/macosx-backup-software/#comment-79811</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Buhl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an old Blue and White G3, which acts as a server and my backup location.  I have a few scripts that cron runs on a periodic basis to rsync the contents of my laptop to my G3.  One script backs up my documents folder hourly.  Backing up to a hard drive, in this manner, is pretty low maintainence.  Using it to write to removable media is likely more cumbersome.  I&#039;ve used the .Mac backup program and have found it lacking, as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an old Blue and White G3, which acts as a server and my backup location.  I have a few scripts that cron runs on a periodic basis to rsync the contents of my laptop to my G3.  One script backs up my documents folder hourly.  Backing up to a hard drive, in this manner, is pretty low maintainence.  Using it to write to removable media is likely more cumbersome.  I&#8217;ve used the .Mac backup program and have found it lacking, as well.</p>
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		<title>By: D'Arcy</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2005/04/22/macosx-backup-software/#comment-79812</link>
		<dc:creator>D'Arcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah - I&#039;d been using an rsync run via cron to keep things synced to my external firewire drive (which walked away and is now presumed dead - I&#039;d love to have it back, whoever took it...)

I have a need to keep backups on less volatile media like CD or DVD. Hard drives go bad, and when they do, you&#039;re hooped.

I&#039;m working on an rsync script that I can call easily to copy a bunch of stuff over to a blank DVD. Less pretty than a shiny GUI, but it should work well. Trying the first backup with it now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah &#8211; I&#8217;d been using an rsync run via cron to keep things synced to my external firewire drive (which walked away and is now presumed dead &#8211; I&#8217;d love to have it back, whoever took it&#8230;)</p>
<p>I have a need to keep backups on less volatile media like CD or DVD. Hard drives go bad, and when they do, you&#8217;re hooped.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m working on an rsync script that I can call easily to copy a bunch of stuff over to a blank DVD. Less pretty than a shiny GUI, but it should work well. Trying the first backup with it now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2005/04/22/macosx-backup-software/#comment-79813</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always found CD and DVD to be totally unreliable.  While a hard drive can go bad, if you do have your data on 2 hard drives (the hard drive on the machine you are using, and the hard drive that is the back up), the chances of both of them blowing is pretty small.  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always found CD and DVD to be totally unreliable.  While a hard drive can go bad, if you do have your data on 2 hard drives (the hard drive on the machine you are using, and the hard drive that is the back up), the chances of both of them blowing is pretty small.</p>
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		<title>By: D'Arcy</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2005/04/22/macosx-backup-software/#comment-79814</link>
		<dc:creator>D'Arcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True - CDs can be flakey occasionally (if you get a bad batch of media, for instance).  I&#039;ve never had problems, but even if a CD or DVD went south on me, I&#039;ve got a stack of disks, one burned every week. So the worst case scenario of a disk going bad might make me go back to the stack to pick up last week&#039;s disk...

Also, all critical files are already in a few locations (my laptop, my desktop, and on a server) so I&#039;ve got hot backups ready for many things. I still like the comfort of knowing I&#039;ve got a (so far) reliable, offline, portable and sharable backup of everything I would need to add to a fresh OSX install to be up and running quickly in case Something Bad happened to my main systems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True &#8211; CDs can be flakey occasionally (if you get a bad batch of media, for instance).  I&#8217;ve never had problems, but even if a CD or DVD went south on me, I&#8217;ve got a stack of disks, one burned every week. So the worst case scenario of a disk going bad might make me go back to the stack to pick up last week&#8217;s disk&#8230;</p>
<p>Also, all critical files are already in a few locations (my laptop, my desktop, and on a server) so I&#8217;ve got hot backups ready for many things. I still like the comfort of knowing I&#8217;ve got a (so far) reliable, offline, portable and sharable backup of everything I would need to add to a fresh OSX install to be up and running quickly in case Something Bad happened to my main systems.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Feldstein</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2005/04/22/macosx-backup-software/#comment-79815</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Feldstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try Carbon Copy Cloner (http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html). It&#039;s basically a nice Cocoa GUI grafted on top of the Unix psync utility. Reasonably fast, very intuitive, and very reliable. 

Plus, it&#039;s free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try Carbon Copy Cloner (<a href="http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html)" rel="nofollow">http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html)</a>. It&#8217;s basically a nice Cocoa GUI grafted on top of the Unix psync utility. Reasonably fast, very intuitive, and very reliable. </p>
<p>Plus, it&#8217;s free.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Feldstein</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2005/04/22/macosx-backup-software/#comment-79816</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Feldstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops. Just read the bottom of your post. I&#039;m pretty certain that CCC will do specific folders rather than entire drives now, though I haven&#039;t played with it in a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops. Just read the bottom of your post. I&#8217;m pretty certain that CCC will do specific folders rather than entire drives now, though I haven&#8217;t played with it in a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2005/04/22/macosx-backup-software/#comment-79817</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am somewhat sure Michael is correct that CCC can do selected content.

For a while on our server I used SilverKeeper or whatever the utility is that came with my LaCie external FW drives. It worked reliably except I could never get it to run automatically by a schedule. 

I must say Retrospect is awfully reliable. We have a version running on our internal office Workgroup server for its own backups, as well as doing remote backups of my working file contents, my bosses PC, and our XServe.

I avoid keeping my data/working files on my computer and carry them on an external FW drive (mainly because I shuttle them between my laptop at work and an iBook at home), but after some server hoo-hah a few weeks ago, it makes a lot of sense to keep the OS separate volumes form your data. The OS and the Apps can be backed up with CCC, and a backup strategy on a data volume keeps you covered. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am somewhat sure Michael is correct that CCC can do selected content.</p>
<p>For a while on our server I used SilverKeeper or whatever the utility is that came with my LaCie external FW drives. It worked reliably except I could never get it to run automatically by a schedule. </p>
<p>I must say Retrospect is awfully reliable. We have a version running on our internal office Workgroup server for its own backups, as well as doing remote backups of my working file contents, my bosses PC, and our XServe.</p>
<p>I avoid keeping my data/working files on my computer and carry them on an external FW drive (mainly because I shuttle them between my laptop at work and an iBook at home), but after some server hoo-hah a few weeks ago, it makes a lot of sense to keep the OS separate volumes form your data. The OS and the Apps can be backed up with CCC, and a backup strategy on a data volume keeps you covered.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Kempthorne</title>
		<link>http://www.darcynorman.net/2005/04/22/macosx-backup-software/#comment-79818</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Kempthorne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have also been looking for a solution. 

Both Carbon Copy Cloner and SuperDuper! are designed to copy an entire disk - although you can exclude folders at the root of the disk. So you can use them to back up /Users but not a subfolder. Both excellent as far as they go. For creating disk images for system restores and lab set ups, they rock. 

I tried a product called BRU in 2003, it was still a little rough around the edges but had the advantage of supporting different backup media including various tape drives. Your post reminds me I should try it again. 

For individual files and folders I still rely on rsync scripts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have also been looking for a solution. </p>
<p>Both Carbon Copy Cloner and SuperDuper! are designed to copy an entire disk &#8211; although you can exclude folders at the root of the disk. So you can use them to back up /Users but not a subfolder. Both excellent as far as they go. For creating disk images for system restores and lab set ups, they rock. </p>
<p>I tried a product called BRU in 2003, it was still a little rough around the edges but had the advantage of supporting different backup media including various tape drives. Your post reminds me I should try it again. </p>
<p>For individual files and folders I still rely on rsync scripts.</p>
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